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WOOOOT war mega upgrade
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By Bismarck.Magnumatic 2010-06-18 03:11:11
Ramuh.Doomsday said: yes SATA steel cyclones to the face!!!!!
You must really like ***!
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By Ramuh.Doomsday 2010-06-18 03:13:16
Im more of a boob guy tbh...
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-06-18 03:15:10
protect V gogo!
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By Bahamut.Satanas 2010-06-18 03:16:12
Since we're gonna post our Epeen shots, might aswell be my turn :), but instead its with Steel Cyclone
Havent tried 2hr King's Justice yet, but when I do, I will post it if it is respectable :)
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-06-18 03:19:23
conserve tp gogo!
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By Phoenix.Oumura 2010-06-18 03:31:40
Current KJ/RR setup.
Any suggestions/changes welcome. (No epeen shot.)
Just recently got back into WAR. _(._.)_
Considering meriting it after the update.
::EDIT::
Galea has STR/Attk - Acc/WSacc augments on it.
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-06-18 06:14:24
Phoenix.Oumura said:
Current KJ/RR setup.
Any suggestions/changes welcome. (No epeen shot.)
Just recently got back into WAR. _(._.)_
Considering meriting it after the update.
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Galea has STR/Attk - Acc/WSacc augments on it.
Hauby/e.body/Aurum body (or anything with some DEX on it) for Raging rush, you should be aiming to get a decent crit rate (unless you are using RR on high level stuff, in that case you need the acc from hauby/e.body). Situationally a Thunder ring or Pixie earring will be good.
KJ needs different legs, hands and back piece. For legs either AFv2 or Ares, for hands Alkys and Foragers/Cerb for back (as you should only being using KJ with 'zerk and aggressor up)
And gorgets for both WS.
By Nabis 2010-06-18 06:39:29
good job santanas now im going to have go back to the drawing boards and come up with somthing better :P
By Nabis 2010-06-18 06:40:10
satanas*
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By Valefor.Mattyc 2010-06-18 07:15:18
Bahamut.Zorander said: Sylph.Biginallways said: Valefor.Mattyc said: and ya war getting an upgrade but war best known for zergs. drawn out fights where dot comes into play sam will still win dont hang it up Nab. What the hell are you talking about? Samurai is not a DOT job at all, unless you have Amano. The longer the fight the more advantage a warrior has due to it's DoT potential. What an ***-backwards statement.... Also, Raging Rush is more powerful than King's Justice unless you're using Mighty Strikes period. Biggy to save the day!
from what i've seen i'll disagree, drawn out fights without meditate, the constant tp build and regardless if your raging rushes do 1-2k samurai can do 3 in the time of "your maybe" 2 and break the same numbers and if not more "unless you depend on your mighty strikes that last roughly a minute" meikyu shisui can accummulate same if not bigger numbers also not to mention sekkanoki and skillchains us sams can solo. no not a ***-backwards statement. only way i see a GA beating gk is if there full on decked out and skill level is there including the right merits. countless times ive outparsed warriors on "tons" of ***, not just lolmerit partys.and they were decked out with gear, bonesplitter are's body heca+1 etc. maybe your samurai sucks or the ones on your server, but since raddenotachi i will strongly disagree with your online ***disturbance samurai has potential for DoT.
By Nabis 2010-06-18 09:37:04
u know mattyc war has meditate too /sam. even though its gimp, war can have a 6 hit build just like sam and produce just about the same ws dmg. if war unleashes thier ws at exactly 100tp, they should be able to keep up with sam. and im not sure if its just me but when i warcry> ws occ i recieve 50tp back right after the ws its rare but it happens, giving war a lil advantage. the new job ablities will make war KJ just that much stronger. (if restraint gives a bonus to ws while attacking how much will be turned into potential ws Dmg?)kinda sucks for those guys who use RR!! :P even though they will get a crt dmg increas from JT
at lvl 78 it doesnt mean that it will help it activate.
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2010-06-19 20:39:55
Sadly, when it comes to WAR and SAM, and which has a better TP gain rate, it's ALWAYS SAM.
A 450 Delay Weapon with a 6-hit > a 504 Delay weapon with 6-hit. Also, when a SAM has AF helm alone, a 140 TP meditate is pretty common, and with both AF helm and Relic hands, a 160 meditate is very common. Not to mention SAM can merit meditate down to 2m30s recast.
I'm not sure what warcry has to do with receiving 50 TP back from WS, unless you mean you got TP from WS, got a melee, and maybe a meditate proc (assuming its up) all in the span of a split second. Or you have the new Conserve TP earring, which I have no idea about how it works exactly.
A properly geared WAR and SAM have their moments, however, they are not equal... If nearly the same gear is used on both, SAM /should/ win over all.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-19 22:02:49
Stuff is situational and it really depends on what you are fighting and what events you are using sam or war for.
War hits hard, sam does not. It would be sick if we had a gk with 90+ damage that also has a tp bonus.
For me personally my war is better geared. For Nyzul, I will hope on sam no problem.
My Current War tp
yes NQ haub deal with it. My accuracy is capped on lol birdies. Thank you great axe merits.
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-06-19 22:22:56
Nabis said: u know mattyc war has meditate too /sam. even though its gimp, war can have a 6 hit build just like sam and produce just about the same ws dmg. if war unleashes thier ws at exactly 100tp, they should be able to keep up with sam. and im not sure if its just me but when i warcry> ws occ i recieve 50tp back right after the ws its rare but it happens, giving war a lil advantage. the new job ablities will make war KJ just that much stronger. (if restraint gives a bonus to ws while attacking how much will be turned into potential ws Dmg?)kinda sucks for those guys who use RR!! :P even though they will get a crt dmg increas from JT
at lvl 78 it doesnt mean that it will help it activate.
Ok, firstly... When you get those 50TP returns, it's either Aesir Ear Pendant activating and getting you some Conserve TP with an attack right after your WS, or you double attack right after you WS. You won't get a 50 TP return from KJ EVER. Not even close.
Second, I agree that KJ will be stronger. Now where the same damage bonus won't be applied to Raging Rush, that critical damage trait is going to be easy to activate if you gear RR properly. It's called a DEX build, and for WAR it's not that hard to do if you have solid gear.
If you want to know more about it, PM me. I can give you information if you're willing to learn.
By Nabis 2010-06-19 22:36:08
I never said i get it from just KJ alone it could be any ws and i still woud recieve 50-60tp bk. I believe it comes from 5/5 savagry when i use warcry. And i dont need to learn i allways out dmg any war using RR with KJ in any PT. Stick to sam!!! And don't try telling me how to play my job. As u can see the only reason that guy had a higher WS dmg was because he used steel cyclone which has a higher tp mod. I know my job i dont need some chump explaining it to me.
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-06-19 22:41:25
Yeah, you clearly do need someone explaining it to you. You're going to claim the TP bonus from Savagery is giving you 50-60TP back? WRONG.
From Wiki on TP Bonus:
FFXIclopedia.org said: The TP Bonus trait (found on weapons such as the Martial Knife, Martial Scythe, Martial Anelace, Shamo and Hagun) enhances any weaponskill performed by a weapon on which it appears. A weaponskill so performed is augmented such that its effect is calculated as if it were performed with an extra 100% TP.
A Warrior's Savagery trait will grant a 10-50% TP Bonus while under the effect of Warcry, and half that much to his party.
You're a *** tool who doesn't know anything about this game. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, dipshit. I've played MUCH more than just SAM.
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By Nabis 2010-06-19 22:43:37
if u didnt know that there's a chance u can get 50-60tp when using warcry (only with 5/5 sav) then your a noob
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-06-19 22:45:18
You don't know how TP bonus works, so who's the noob now?
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-19 22:45:34
Nabis said: I never said i get it from just KJ alone it could be any ws and i still woud recieve 50-60tp bk. I believe it comes from 5/5 savagry when i use warcry. And i dont need to learn i allways out dmg any war using RR with KJ in any PT. Stick to sam!!! And don't try telling me how to play my job. As u can see the only reason that guy had a higher WS dmg was because he used steel cyclone which has a higher tp mod. I know my job i dont need some chump explaining it to me.
what?
Why were you /thf and using KJ? SC for /thf and yeah SC for ***with high defense didnt you know?
Samurai Rolls from cor? Gosh man it doesnt even seem that you know what war merits are and do. Savagery gives you and your party members tp when you use warcry.
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-06-19 22:46:39
Seraph.Rafik said: Savagry gives you and your party members tp when you use warcry.
According to Wiki's description, this is wrong too.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-19 22:48:59
Sylph.Vincentius said: Seraph.Rafik said: Savagry gives you and your party members tp when you use warcry.
According to Wiki's description, this is wrong too.
huh? You in a good mood today?
I never said how much tp it gives.
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-06-19 22:50:57
It doesn't give TP.
It gives a TP Bonus, which is immensely different.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
And I'm always in a good mood, I just get fairly blunt when people are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. You'll know if you piss me off. -.^
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-06-19 22:54:41
Sylph.Vincentius said: It doesn't give TP.
It gives a TP Bonus, which is immensely different.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
And I'm always in a good mood, I just get fairly blunt when people are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. You'll know if you piss me off. -.^
meh I dont know much about it... I have tomahawk merits myself, cause yeah that is always full of win on Jailer of Temp <.< or elementals when you get them for Einj
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By Valefor.Vyrren 2010-06-19 22:56:31
LOL Oh man this keeps getting funnier.
By Nabis 2010-06-19 22:57:01
i'm only going to say this 1 more time if u dont get it then lvl war and test it. every 1/15 ws's or so i get back 50-60tp when using warcry only. it gives u back 50-60tp when using warcry only. had to repeat it x2 so u can understand.
and if u did lvl war u must have sucked *** at the job if u never seen this happen. And this was b4 i started /sam. you'r not going to sit here and type in this forum that it doesnt happen when it does. go shout in aht urghan or somthing and start asking around. im sure some full time war will give u a response that it does happen!!
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-06-19 22:58:25
Seraph.Rafik said: Sylph.Vincentius said: It doesn't give TP.
It gives a TP Bonus, which is immensely different.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
And I'm always in a good mood, I just get fairly blunt when people are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. You'll know if you piss me off. -.^
meh I dont know much about it... I have tomahawk merits myself, cause yeah that is always full of win on Jailer of Temp <.< or elementals when you get them for Einj
Well, you know now!
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By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-06-19 22:59:52
Nabis said: i'm only going to say this 1 more time if u dont get it then lvl war and test it. every 1/15 ws's or so i get back 50-60tp when using warcry only. it gives u back 50-60tp when using warcry only. had to repeat it x2 so u can understand.
and if u did lvl war u must have sucked *** at the job if u never seen this happen. And this was b4 i started /sam. you'r not going to sit here and type in this forum that it doesnt happen when it does. go shout in aht urghan or somthing and start asking around. im sure some full time war will give u a response that it does happen!!
I'll explain this again...
When you get those 50TP returns, it's either Aesir Ear Pendant activating and getting you some Conserve TP with an attack right after your WS, or you double attack right after you WS. You won't get a 50 TP return from KJ OR ANY OTHER WS EVER. Not even close. Savagery does NOT change this, you thick headed ***.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/TP_Bonus
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By Nabis 2010-06-19 23:00:21
well there u go he just admited to not having it so he wouldnt know not that it doesnt happen!!
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-06-19 23:01:17
Nabis said: well there u go he just admited to not having it so he wouldnt know not that it doesnt happen!!
wut?
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By Nabis 2010-06-19 23:02:52
i do not use the aesir pendant b4 update moron
Crit. Atk. Bonus
- WAR Lv.78
- THF Lv.78
- DNC Lv.80
Improves power of critical hits.
- The level requirement for the samurai ability "Sekkanoki" will be reduced from 60 to 40.
holy fucking shit my war is going to fucking completely shit on sam. Not only am i going to get a critcle hit bonus for my 2hr but i will also get sekkanoki.
This will make is so fucking easy to store 200 tp sekkanoki>
2hr> king's justice> meditate> king's justice> store 20tp>
king's justice> icurus wing> wing's justice
yes i use a icurus wing why not extra ws who cares only 8k
yea im gonna do all this dmg i know im a gonner but who cares when u can get close to 10k dmg
my ws's do hit for 2.5k on my 2hr yes "i know sexy"
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