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By Sylph.Tkbeatz 2010-06-16 21:30:49
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hello fellow pups.. I finally have enough points for a Animator +1 but I'm still undecided and would like to know if it's worth the points or I would rather spend it on other items. Thanks!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-16 21:33:49
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Depends on what you do as pup. Anything melee, I go a DD job over pup. When I use puppet for solo nuking, I prefer turbo animator.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-16 21:34:02
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but overall, I'd say yes
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By Sylph.Tkbeatz 2010-06-16 21:38:50
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ahh k k thanks for reply
 
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By Ragnarok.Bleublood 2010-06-16 22:07:22
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What is the exact difference between turbo and +1? Besides the dex turbo gives and the hp/mp boosts the +1 gives?

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By Leviathan.Auraeon 2010-06-16 22:10:22
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Unless you have a RNG, PLD, or a Mage, your Ichor is probably best spent on Animator +1. Or in my case, I got Animator +1 first because PUP is my favorite job by far.

Animator +1 gives 4 DEX to the master, and adds pretty big chunk of HP and MP to automatons.

Harlequin frame HP+50 MP+50
Valoredge frame HP+60 MP+0
Sharpshot frame HP+45 MP+0
Stormwaker frame HP+40 MP+60
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By Ragnarok.Bleublood 2010-06-16 22:20:12
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So it doesn't make the Automaton respond better to maneuvers?
 
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By Phoenix.Degs 2010-06-16 22:34:51
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Leviathan.Auraeon said:
Unless you have a RNG, PLD, or a Mage, your Ichor is probably best spent on Animator 1. Or in my case, I got Animator 1 first because PUP is my favorite job by far.

Animator 1 gives 4 DEX to the master, and adds pretty big chunk of HP and MP to automatons.

Harlequin frame HP 50 MP 50
Valoredge frame HP 60 MP 0
Sharpshot frame HP 45 MP 0
Stormwaker frame HP 40 MP 60

Not even, those pieces have alternatives with less of a gap.

COR and RNG have the better belt from dynamis.

PLD can wear a harmonia's torque, which may start an argument if someone wants to say "BUT THE VIT!".

The backs are replaceable for mages. Ixion, Prism, and so on.

The omega ring is nice, but chances are you can use either the snow or aqua or ToAU ring.

The Animator 1 has 2 more dex and enough hp or mp to save me or the puppet. Those situations where your puppet just lives or you role reversal when you have hate and repair the puppet and have less than 40-60 hp left. The gap between the other pieces especially the back pieces is smaller than turbo to 1.

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So it doesn't make the Automaton respond better to maneuvers?

Of course not! Just look at the Tactical Processor which says it increases response, yet no test has ever yielded anything.


@Tactical proc. it actually works very well in conjunction with eraser, for solo play, w/ whm auto.... there has been testing done on wiki forums, and ive done some also, its pretty nice, but totally situational
 
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2010-06-16 22:38:55
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Leviathan.Auraeon said:
Animator +1 gives 4 DEX to the master, and adds pretty big chunk of HP and MP to automatons.

Harlequin frame HP 50 MP 50
Valoredge frame HP 60 MP 0
Sharpshot frame HP 45 MP 0
Stormwaker frame HP 40 MP 60
^ and for the e-peen :3
A PUP can never have too much Acc and your maton living longer/able to keep you alive longer is well worth it.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2010-06-16 22:54:12
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if you go to Jobs>puppetmaster forums... its somewhere in there!.. on wiki that is... if i can find the link ill post it, but it was some time ago that i was on that particular thread
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-16 22:59:51
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Depends on what you do as pup. Anything melee, I go a DD job over pup. When I use puppet for solo nuking, I prefer turbo animator.

Because Turbo does what that 1 does not? Gives less DEX and puppet stats and gives what in return? Nothing proven or evident!

Tactical Processor anyone?
Like I said, for SOLO nuking. When if it goes yellow, I swap to mamoolbane. If I swap back to ani+1 before deactivating, it gains HP and is no longer 100% and hello 20 min recast. I've done it enough times to say *** it, the +1 has no use for my solo'ing and can get in the way when not paying attention.

Who said anything about tactical processor?
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By Phoenix.Degs 2010-06-16 23:31:06
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two posts above... they were just saying that tact proc. doesnt do anything.. was just pointing out that, it does.. a bit off topic but..
 
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-16 23:59:02
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Throwing is faster than ichi level spells and has longer range.
 
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-17 00:04:05
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Boompadu is a frequent of going unclaimed. I also did a lot of ZNM solo'ing. After the times I've lost my maton doing it, and seeing as +1 has ZERO advantage w/ the nuke deactivate strat, there is no reason to use it.
 
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-17 00:13:26
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question Tiger...I'm a 75 pup but have yet to actually try the deactivate nuke method for any soloing because I can't quite seem to figure out how exactly its done...Don't get me wrong, Activate >> nuke >> Deactivate..but there is a 1m cooldown on deactivate....mobs usually regen the nuke's dmg in that 1m....what am I doing wrong with that? I quite frankly just don't understand how ADA nuking can solo anything ><
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-17 00:15:10
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You have to have hate, when you deactivate the mob will start chasing you. As long as it's still claimed and has hate/chasing someone it won't regen (unless it has auto regen)
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-17 00:15:57
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so you just run around /nin like running for dear life? (or buy hermes sandals?) lol
 
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-17 00:18:45
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still 1M on my server since LM17 monopolizes Ixion from what I understand lol
 
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-17 00:20:48
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ya..they are pretty expensive...their LS has like 15 full relics or some jazz now lol
 
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-17 00:26:45
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lol yup...sure flew right by me that time :P i guess you got a point... could be a lot worse.... lol