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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-06-04 05:05:17
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Incoming new skillchain! Cosmic Elucidation! >_>

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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2010-06-04 05:09:05
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well, at least these don't seem to be job specific like the last set of WS. So, if the new one is good for mnk, may also be good for my pup. Would be badass if sam could use the new lace skill, though I can't see a 1hit beating penta in polearm situations.

A non-sucky opener for level 3 SCs, perhaps?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-04 05:11:02
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well, at least these don't seem to be job specific like the last set of WS. So, if the new one is good for mnk, may also be good for my pup. Would be badass if sam could use the new lace skill, though I can't see a 1hit beating penta in polearm situations.

Ya I would love to see those WSs for pup and sam as well..and it MIGHT beat penta if it has a higher enough str mod
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-04 05:14:40
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well, at least these don't seem to be job specific like the last set of WS. So, if the new one is good for mnk, may also be good for my pup. Would be badass if sam could use the new lace skill, though I can't see a 1hit beating penta in polearm situations.

Ya I would love to see those WSs for pup and sam as well..and it MIGHT beat penta if it has a higher enough str mod
would have to have godly ftp for merit lv mobs and you don't use penta on hnm anyway. a high str mod won't cut it
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-04 05:16:48
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wouldn't the FTP already be high since it looks like a 1 hit WS?

And for all the people QQing that there are too many elemental WSs....those new ones might not actually have elemental damage attached to them..just look at Tachi:Yukikaze..its animation is a lot of ice, but not even remotely close to ice dmg

edit: and I kinda hope that Sonic Thrust has some sort of range to it...I hate when mobs suddenly move a little bit or somebody all the sudden takes hate and makes me lose TP lol

P.S. Damn you Tiger...can't stop laughing at that avatar lol
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-04 05:18:02
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i mean like 300tp full swing high lol cause penta is 5-7 depending on DA procs
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2010-06-04 05:42:06
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They looked pretty sweet, I hope PUP doesnt get screwed out of more WSs, i'd like to have Tornado Kick.
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By Leviathan.Optimis 2010-06-04 05:51:45
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Numbing edge looks pretty cool lol pistol whip BAM headshot lol
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By Phoenix.Kryptik 2010-06-04 05:52:14
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Wow im feeling PUP not getting a new WS lol. . . but I am feeling BST WS looks pimped
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-04 06:13:36
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oh and for the record...since its a bunch of fire kicks, the Tornado Kick shall now be referred to as FALCON KICK!!!
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-06-04 06:24:25
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
oh and for the record...since its a bunch of fire kicks, the Tornado Kick shall now be referred to as FALCON KICK!!!
building kick*
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By Fenrir.Arsi 2010-06-04 06:25:56
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after checking the vid twice..

i started to wonder if Tachi: Ageha and Sonic Thrust.... would be ranged ws like the Mistral Axe.
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By Phoenix.Azyattic 2010-06-04 07:02:40
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Fenrir.Arsi said:
after checking the vid twice.. i started to wonder if Tachi: Ageha and Sonic Thrust.... would be ranged ws like the Mistral Axe.

sonic thrust does kinda like its shot out the polearm lol.
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By Fenrir.Luarania 2010-06-04 07:02:40
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I noticed that too, it almost seemed that Sonich Thrust was from a longer distance. I didn't see that on Ageha though, I'll rewatch in a bit.

My one hope is that they are not quested. I would think most of us agree, we have enough headaches as it is with quested weaponskills... I still have to do Club and Staff as well as work on Atonement now =(
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By Bismarck.Alana 2010-06-04 07:11:22
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BSTWS looks sexy

andlol PLD gets a drain WS funny stuff i guess
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-06-04 07:13:08
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They look nice~
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By Titan.Gennss 2010-06-04 07:29:04
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new possibilities for self-sc? Especially on drk, since it doesn't seem to be able to solo a lvl 3 SC.?
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By Fenrir.Luarania 2010-06-04 07:32:09
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Titan.Gennss said:
new possibilities for self-sc? Especially on drk, since it doesn't seem to be able to solo a lvl 3 SC.?
Probably.
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By Sylph.Teleia 2010-06-04 07:34:49
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Can't say i'm impressed.... by all means another ws would be nice.... but seriously..... ; ;
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By Diabolos.Obliterate 2010-06-04 07:37:51
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Tornado Kick - Dragon kick
Blade: yu - Blade: teki
Aeolian Blade - Cyclone
Numbing Shot - Blast shot
Sanguine Blade - Spirits within
Bora Axe - Mistral axe
Herculean slash - Shockwave
Cataclysm - Retribution
Infernal Scythe - Catastrophe
Tachi: Ageha - Tachi: yukikaze
Sonic Thrust - Raiden thrust
Refulgent Arrow - Empyreal arrow(only one not sure of)
Fell Cleave - Steel Cyclone

As you can see yes all of them are reskins of ws already available but some of them look nice and hopefully most of them will be really useful for the jobs that can use them.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-04 07:38:00
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lol damn..people are upset about these WSs already...and they aren't even in the game lol
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By Ramuh.Rustytiger 2010-06-04 07:38:11
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The new WS seem promising but I'm wondering if it is even worth trying to obtain the relic WS' in the two-some-odd years it takes to unlock them now since we have these new ones.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-04 07:39:07
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Diabolos.Obliterate said:
Tornado Kick - Dragon kick
Blade: yu - Blade: teki
Aeolian Blade - Cyclone
Numbing Shot - Blast shot
Sanguine Blade - Spirits within
Bora Axe - Mistral axe
Herculean slash - Shockwave
Cataclysm - Retribution
Infernal Scythe - Catastrophe
Tachi: Ageha - Tachi: yukikaze
Sonic Thrust - Raiden thrust
Refulgent Arrow - Empyreal arrow(only one not sure of)
Fell Cleave - Steel Cyclone

As you can see yes all of them are reskins of ws already available but some of them look nice and hopefully most of them will be really useful for the jobs that can use them.

and no they are not all reskins....wtf does the animation on Infernal Scythe (it looks like antlion's jaws btw.....) have to do with Catastrophe? seriously?
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By Diabolos.Obliterate 2010-06-04 07:44:13
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Diabolos.Obliterate said:
Tornado Kick - Dragon kick Blade: yu - Blade: teki Aeolian Blade - Cyclone Numbing Shot - Blast shot Sanguine Blade - Spirits within Bora Axe - Mistral axe Herculean slash - Shockwave Cataclysm - Retribution Infernal Scythe - Catastrophe Tachi: Ageha - Tachi: yukikaze Sonic Thrust - Raiden thrust Refulgent Arrow - Empyreal arrow(only one not sure of) Fell Cleave - Steel Cyclone As you can see yes all of them are reskins of ws already available but some of them look nice and hopefully most of them will be really useful for the jobs that can use them.
and no they are not all reskins....wtf does the animation on Infernal Scythe (it looks like antlion's jaws btw.....) have to do with Catastrophe? seriously?

I just listed that they are all reskins and yes infernal scythe is just catastrophe reskined
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By Fenrir.Luarania 2010-06-04 07:47:09
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Diabolos.Obliterate said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Diabolos.Obliterate said:
Tornado Kick - Dragon kick Blade: yu - Blade: teki Aeolian Blade - Cyclone Numbing Shot - Blast shot Sanguine Blade - Spirits within Bora Axe - Mistral axe Herculean slash - Shockwave Cataclysm - Retribution Infernal Scythe - Catastrophe Tachi: Ageha - Tachi: yukikaze Sonic Thrust - Raiden thrust Refulgent Arrow - Empyreal arrow(only one not sure of) Fell Cleave - Steel Cyclone As you can see yes all of them are reskins of ws already available but some of them look nice and hopefully most of them will be really useful for the jobs that can use them.
and no they are not all reskins....wtf does the animation on Infernal Scythe (it looks like antlion's jaws btw.....) have to do with Catastrophe? seriously?
I just listed that they are all reskins and yes infernal scythe is just catastrophe reskined
I think the whole thing is getting misunderstood. A better way to explain this is, a lot of the motions are being reused, but visual effects of the weaponskills are different.
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By Diabolos.Obliterate 2010-06-04 07:49:13
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Fenrir.Luarania said:
Diabolos.Obliterate said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Diabolos.Obliterate said:
Tornado Kick - Dragon kick Blade: yu - Blade: teki Aeolian Blade - Cyclone Numbing Shot - Blast shot Sanguine Blade - Spirits within Bora Axe - Mistral axe Herculean slash - Shockwave Cataclysm - Retribution Infernal Scythe - Catastrophe Tachi: Ageha - Tachi: yukikaze Sonic Thrust - Raiden thrust Refulgent Arrow - Empyreal arrow(only one not sure of) Fell Cleave - Steel Cyclone As you can see yes all of them are reskins of ws already available but some of them look nice and hopefully most of them will be really useful for the jobs that can use them.
and no they are not all reskins....wtf does the animation on Infernal Scythe (it looks like antlion's jaws btw.....) have to do with Catastrophe? seriously?
I just listed that they are all reskins and yes infernal scythe is just catastrophe reskined
I think the whole thing is getting misunderstood. A better way to explain this is, a lot of the motions are being reused, but visual effects of the weaponskills are different.

Yes thats a better way of putting it ty sir
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-06-04 07:50:19
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i wouldn't call that a "reskin" then, cuz then we can say well Catastrophe is the same as slice...since its a sweeping motion of the scythe itself...get real lol you can say that for like 99% of all of the WSs in game....the animations are different though..like somebody said earlier, there are only so many ways you can swing each weapon type....
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By Fenrir.Luarania 2010-06-04 07:55:44
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
i wouldn't call that a "reskin" then, cuz then we can say well Catastrophe is the same as slice...since its a sweeping motion of the scythe itself...get real lol you can say that for like 99% of all of the WSs in game....the animations are different though..like somebody said earlier, there are only so many ways you can swing each weapon type....

Honestly if you flip through the animations on a viewer, very few are reused. If I had to put a guess to it I'd say maybe 5-10% are reused motions of curent obtainable weaponskills.

Of course I am also guessing it, I only looked through scythes and from what I recall of other weaponskills. I'll do math later if it's needed.
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By Diabolos.Obliterate 2010-06-04 08:05:38
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The character motions and actions during the weaponskills are exactly the same as ws already in the game of course the full animation (colors and sound) are different making it a DIFFERENT ws which is the point. Thats what "reskin" means, using the same motions/actions and adding different color and sound effects. I don't see whats so complicated about that.
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