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Am i doin it wrong ? lol
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2010-05-31 05:21:12
just curious, why would -enmity even be a concern on puddings in the first place? this has all become very confusing.
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By Sylph.Starstrukk 2010-05-31 05:22:07
Sylph.Siccmade said: just curious, why would -enmity even be a concern on puddings in the first place? this has all become very confusing.
The flan won't be as angry and won't retaliate with as bad spells.
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2010-05-31 05:22:35
Sylph.Starstrukk said: Sylph.Siccmade said: just curious, why would -enmity even be a concern on puddings in the first place? this has all become very confusing.
The flan won't be as angry and won't retaliate with as bad spells. lmao
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2010-05-31 05:23:27
I'm up for a Novio soon, but idk. Salvage isn't LS sponsored.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-31 05:24:12
You know, while Morrigan's slop would take time to get, even they are cheaper than both of those :P.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-31 05:26:25
I can't afford Spike Necklace!
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2010-05-31 05:27:18
ok, whatever^^ like I said, ya'll did well with the gang-up of Novio-morrigan blm's, the whiting out and the quick exit. Oh and the high resists of the sch and her exit, but this was a Blm vs. gimped personality LS, it was vs sch. but have your circle jerk. pat yourselves on the back. but we know what the real deal was and is.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-31 05:28:49
Let me know when you wanna go and do your 10 mob vs 10 mob parce. ^^
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2010-05-31 05:29:43
I'm down whenever
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By Sylph.Lotusbluete 2010-05-31 05:31:20
Can I have a LS that buys me Novio and Morrigans? You can have a super silly RDM + BLM in return :3
I even bring the Mahatma Slops! :X
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2010-05-31 05:33:05
I think the catch would be too expensive Lots.
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-31 05:35:35
I know we have moved on to some random de-rail but I would like to go back to a point a couple of people brought up.
They said something along the lines of "DNC wasn't worth the space in the party, I would rather take another DD".
Here is a bit of (massively over simplified) maths I did for a recent topic about marches vs minuets. You can replace SAM with THF if you genuinely thing THF is a better DD, it doesn't matter as I am only calculating the improvement haste gives.
ME said: Ok I was hoping not to get called on it, but here goes.
Lets say 1 SAM does 1 unit of damage with no BRD, DNC or COR buffs, just haste from the RDM. The SAMs have 18% haste from gear.
Double march on 4 sams:
Assuming they can ride hasso full time they have moved from 43 haste to 63 => 20/37 = 54% increase in Global damage.
So 4 sam 6.16 units of damage.
Assuming they can't ride hasso (inb4 get better healers)
Tha gain drops to 45.5% so the 4 sams do 5.82 units of damage.
Minuet + March on 4 sams:
Minuet is 55 att, which is going to be around a 9-10% increase in global damage (assuming ~450-500 attack).
March will be 11/46 = 20.37%
So a total of ~32% (being generous) so a total for 4 SAM of 4.81 damage
Double march on 3 sams + dnc:
10 haste DNC on top of the double march, so a total of 73%
10/27 = 37% increase over the double marched SAMs, so that's a total of 2.11 damage per SAM so the total damage is from the 3 SAMs is 6.33 units of damage.
So before you account for the DNCs damage the 3 Double marched + haste samba'd SAMs beat 4 SAMs with double march (but no DNC).
This is a rather simplistic comparison but you can see DNC owns in merits.
The OP was assuming outside healing so the party would be 3 or 4 DD, COR and BRD with an optional DNC.
The same maths will show similar result for a 2 DD, DNC, RDM(or WHM), COR, BRD party
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-05-31 05:36:31
I love this guy, he's trolling better than me, I gotta give it to him man. When you are beat you are beat. This guy has had lot's of practice.
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By Sylph.Starstrukk 2010-05-31 05:38:18
Sylph.Liltrouble said: I'm up for a Novio soon, but idk. Hopefully soon. ^^ Quote: Salvage isn't LS sponsored. =/
Sylph.Liltrouble said: the whiting out and the quick exit. Oh and the high resists of the sch and her exit, but this was a Blm vs. gimped personality LS, it was vs sch. but have your circle jerk. pat yourselves on the back. but we know what the real deal was and is.
Says the Ethug firing blanks... I don't like being mean but damn man.
Sylph.Lotusbluete said: Can I have a LS that buys me Novio and Morrigans? You can have a super silly RDM BLM in return :3
I even bring the Mahatma Slops! :X
Would totally say join my LS but we don't really do much sea anymore. =(
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2010-05-31 05:41:10
I wasn't beat. It was supposed to be Blm vs. sch. What I got was Blm vs. 2 other Blm's in Novio and Morrigans. The sch showed and got resisted. simple. But yeah, ok^^., I was beat, lol. If it makes ya'll feel better, ya you totally owned me, I am so sorry I ever said anything, lol. Heaven forbid I ever say anything more in the future about out nuking 2 Blm's in Novio and Morrigans. Err.. wait, I never did! funny that thats what showed up.
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-05-31 05:44:55
Sylph.Liltrouble said: I wasn't beat. It was supposed to be Blm vs. sch. What I got was Blm vs. 2 other Blm's in Novio and Morrigans. The sch showed and got resisted. simple. But yeah, ok^^., I was beat, lol. If it makes ya'll feel better, ya you totally owned me, I am so sorry I ever said anything, lol. Heaven forbid I ever say anything more in the future about out nuking 2 Blm's in Novio and Morrigans. Err.. wait, I never did! funny that thats what showed up.
*takes notes*
Also, When i'm trying to piss ppl off like you do, do I have to act like a total *** or is there a way i can do it and keep a shred of intelligence? I mean the "Parce" ***was an amazing touch, but I feel stupid if I say ***like that. I know I shouldn't if i'm trolling but I do, do you have any tips?
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2010-05-31 05:57:18
ope, he said a naughty
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By Sylph.Lotusbluete 2010-05-31 05:57:43
Sylph.Starstrukk said:
Sylph.Lotusbluete said: Can I have a LS that buys me Novio and Morrigans? You can have a super silly RDM BLM in return :3
I even bring the Mahatma Slops! :X
Would totally say join my LS but we don't really do much sea anymore. =(
Booo there goes my chance :<
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By Sylph.Starstrukk 2010-05-31 05:58:16
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said: *takes notes*
Also, When i'm trying to piss ppl off like you do, do I have to act like a total *** or is there a way i can do it and keep a shred of intelligence? I mean the "Parce" ***was an amazing touch, but I feel stupid if I say ***like that. I know I shouldn't if i'm trolling but I do, do you have any tips?
Like this
Quote: [05:49:57](Kimble) So what happened with NiN lilt?
[05:50:05](Liltrouble) ?
[05:50:09](Kozuki) oops
[05:50:11](Kozuki) im tired
[05:50:13](Kimble) Werent you in NIN?
[05:50:30](Liltrouble) Who told you that
[05:50:34](Kozuki) 1603
[05:50:38](Kozuki) you did.. o_O
[05:50:48](Kozuki) ok, i dont want to be mean to you, or insult you or anything
[05:50:54](Kozuki) you did
[05:51:08](Liltrouble) only 2 people on this server know that
[05:51:10](Kozuki) but you say random stuff all the time
[05:51:13](Ashaaman) NIght Children
[05:51:16](Liltrouble) no...
[05:51:16](Kozuki) and act really annoying
[05:51:27]Ashaaman>> Later man lol
[05:51:31]>>Ashaaman : nn
[05:51:38](Liltrouble) and one of them was a SH in Nin
[05:51:46](Kozuki) you said in LS chat you were in NIN
[05:51:47](Liltrouble) so, it was the other
[05:51:49](Kozuki) that's how we know
[05:51:54](Liltrouble) I never
[05:51:57](Kimble) So you were in NIN?
[05:51:57](Kozuki) no, you did
[05:51:59](Liltrouble) newp
[05:52:04](Starstrukk) Wait what was your Bismarc name, half my shell is from Bis.
[05:52:13](Liltrouble) No one in US knew trhat
[05:52:21](Kozuki) you said it... @_@
[05:52:21](Liltrouble) cept Aen and Drb
[05:52:23](Kozuki) you're weird
[05:52:43](Kimble) you 2 want D2s?
[05:52:51](Starstrukk) I'm good, /BLM.
[05:52:52](Liltrouble) yeah, anyways they broke
[05:52:56](Kimble) k
"Aen" or "Drb" were apparently sacks in NiN.
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2010-05-31 06:02:19
No.. dweeb and thanks for showin everyone your windower.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-05-31 06:03:20
Sylph.Liltrouble said: No.. dweeb and thanks for showin everyone your windower.
Everybody use windower.
Those who dont use it should. :P
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-05-31 06:04:19
Sylph.Liltrouble said: No.. dweeb and thanks for showin everyone your windower.
***. Seriously he's good but I gotta go pass out, keep this sexy I'll read it when I wake up. Get like... 4 more pages at least. I think he can do it. Maybe try that pup nuking ***since a blm, rdm and sch already beat him.
inb4 sch resisted.
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By Sylph.Siccmade 2010-05-31 06:06:30
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Sylph.Liltrouble said: No.. dweeb and thanks for showin everyone your windower.
Everybody use windower.
Those who dont use it should. :P somebody call Ibite, quick!
edit: now those threads had some quality trolling.
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By Sylph.Starstrukk 2010-05-31 06:07:01
Sylph.Liltrouble said: No.. dweeb and thanks for showin everyone your windower.
Oh noez.
My friend in your shell told me to post diz.
wat.
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-31 06:08:28
Sylph.Starstrukk said: Sylph.Liltrouble said: No.. dweeb and thanks for showin everyone your windower.
Oh noez.
My friend in your shell told me to post diz.
wat.
Well played
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-05-31 06:09:12
Sylph.Starstrukk said: Sylph.Liltrouble said: No.. dweeb and thanks for showin everyone your windower.
Oh noez.
My friend in your shell told me to post diz.
wat.
Haha, look at that Burst II :D
Oh, you ment the windower? :p
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By Sylph.Lotusbluete 2010-05-31 06:10:58
well, about PUPs nuking on Puds :
Edit:
that was a PUP friend of mine and I was there when he did that SS.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-05-31 06:11:45
Sylph.Liltrouble said: No.. dweeb and thanks for showin everyone your windower.
Not this ***again!
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By Sylph.Starstrukk 2010-05-31 06:12:05
Sylph.Lotusbluete said: well, about PUPs nuking on Puds :
[05:32:43]Liltrouble casts Blizzard IV.
[05:32:43]The Ebony Pudding takes 1291 points of damage.
inb4 shooped.
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2010-05-31 06:13:20
I'm out too. this is just an LS click vs a poor Blm that uses no tools or a Credit card other than to pay for his subscription. Have fun and enjoy yourselves^^
So Dnc has long been my most favorite job in FFXI, and ive neglected it for too long. Have taken 5 jobs 1-75 and done a few subjobs since i got it to 75 and honestly i kinda stopped playin it when it hit 75 other than for campaign. So what i wanna know is how does my dnc gear look to you, my fellow dancers ?
Merits (dnc spec) 5/5 haste samba, 3/5 reverse flourish
3/5 No foot rise, 1 saber, 1 fan dance
(im currently working on capping no foot rise and reverse)
Acc gear:
Azoth, joyeuse, af weapon
O.hat, PCC, Brutal, suppa
SH, cobra, Raja's, Sniper
Cuch, Virtuoso, AF+1, cobra
Haste gear: (needs a lil work)
Azoth, Joy, AF
Turban, Pcc, brutal, suppa
rappare, dusk, raja, sniper
Cuch, headlong(need swift), AF+1(until etoile), dusk
Evasion:
Azoth, joy, AF
O.hat, evasion torque, Brutal, velocity
SH, Etoile, raja, sniper
Corse cape, Virtuoso(till i get scouters), Crow, AF
i do know that gear isnt everything, most of what dnc does is more based on skill. I dont claim to be the best, but i do think im doin pretty well, anything my fellow dancers have to offer in the form of advice, tips, or even flames cause i suck... i dont care, bring it on, i can take it. =) thanks guys.
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