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 Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-24 11:01:45
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Asura.Jetzabel said:
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All this talk of incest is making me confused. It's popular now? =o
I wish... wait wut
LOL
What can I say I have some hot relatives. And step relatives and step step relatives.
Maybe second cousins and I'll -think- about it. lol.
Well my step sister has a step daughter that is pretty good looking and like just a few months younger than me. There's also one like 1 year older but haven't met her.

One of my 3rd cousins I think is pretty hot or was and like born same year and month lol.

Most of anything closer isn't really except my half sister. Well and her half sister ended up turning out really hot though were not technically related and both of them are married I think
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By Siren.Kuz 2010-05-24 11:02:18
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Ramuh.Krizz said:
Airship fight was fun. I actually looked forward to it because of it's reputation.

you know what works rather nicely in that fight?
RNG with Stun Bullets.
They proc more often then you'd think!!!

I remember doing that fight.
Took out 2 Mammets by myself just through Barrage on one, then Sidewinder on another.
Swapped to Gun for U.O themselves.
TP up with the Stun Bullets and WS with proper damage ammo.


 
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-24 11:06:21
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Ramuh.Krizz said:
Asura.Jetzabel said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Jetzabel said:
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All this talk of incest is making me confused. It's popular now? =o
I wish... wait wut
LOL
What can I say I have some hot relatives. And step relatives and step step relatives.
Maybe second cousins and I'll -think- about it. lol.
We call those "kissing cousins" down here in the south.
Sounds like cruel intentions lol
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By Melanieruth78 2010-05-24 11:08:25
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I'm a little late to the discussion, but as someone who is starting over in the game after a few years away, I was happy that they're removing the cap on COP areas. My first time through was right when it came out, and it was a complete *** to get those things done- not to mention the fact that getting people to help also required that they had the right gear for the level capped areas.

Generally, I've found the improvements to be good ones (especially the no longer having to buy lower level gear part!) and think that the progression of the game and the way things are done has been rather logical.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-24 11:19:04
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Basically, people are upset that have done COP already because COP was always viewed as a "right of passage" in FFXI.

Best thing about having sea is doing Limbus, sadly, the Jailer system is a bit lacking and the rewards for most jobs ( in terms of gear ) Isnt that great.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-05-24 11:20:27
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sounds like cruel intentions lol
Great movie.
Siren.Kuz said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Airship fight was fun. I actually looked forward to it because of it's reputation.

you know what works rather nicely in that fight?
RNG with Stun Bullets.
They proc more often then you'd think!!!

I remember doing that fight.
Took out 2 Mammets by myself just through Barrage on one, then Sidewinder on another.
Swapped to Gun for U.O themselves.
TP up with the Stun Bullets and WS with proper damage ammo.
Interesting. Additional effects always make me nervous unless there is a proven proc rate. I tend to have bad luck when it comes to those.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-05-24 11:20:59
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I can't imagine having the hots for a step sibling. It would feel so wrong but so exciting at the same time =x

>_>
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-05-24 11:22:40
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I never thought I'd ever get thru CoP just cuz I never cared enough to get it done. Luckily one night I saw a /sh that was on my mission so I joined it. We did our static every night until at least one mission was completed. With how easy it is to travel now-a-days the CS don't even take that much time. (Gogogogo Moogle powers where you can warp to any nation..almost broke the CS game of CoP, along with quickening.)

My buddy Leo ran it and did an awesome job of nailing the strats down..if we needed to improvise we did and it worked great. The only fights we had to do more than once were Pots once and I think we went 1/3 on Airship. Both of those fights we entered with what we thought was a good strat but we changed little things and won easily the next time.

Now I am glad that I did CoP it was alot more fun than I thought it was going to be.

The rewards are well worth the time invested too..

Raja/Tama, Brutal, Swift Belt, Loq, Gorgets, Nash Gear amd HOMAM!

Homam 4/5 now Body [can I have it?]
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-24 11:24:08
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Asura.Jetzabel said:
I can't imagine having the hots for a step sibling. It would feel so wrong but so exciting at the same time =x
Lol. Yeah I could see that. COuld be fun though
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-24 11:26:57
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Asura.Jetzabel said:
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I can't imagine having the hots for a step sibling. It would feel so wrong but so exciting at the same time =x
>_>
I am joking lol. I would never do that. I hope.
I lol'd
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By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2010-05-24 11:27:37
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First... MMOers are wierd... incest... lol

Secondly, it took me almost 3 years to get to Ouryu on my old account (WHM main). But..., it only took a month and a half for me to get sea access on my other account (BLM main).

Now, that said, I know several people that tried their damnedest to get sea access and failed. They shouted for days in Whitegate. They pleaded to multiple LSs for help. Some even went so far as to call in sick to work to be there during a scheduled mission. All to no avail.

I remember trying to 5/6 the mammet fight because after farming scales and getting everyone to the BCNM, the RDM had to go. This was after I had beaten CoP myself and was just helping some friends. We decided to give it a shot at 5/6 and got to 10% of the last mammet before a full wipe. We were determined and knew we could win, but then we lost our PLD. 2.5 hours had now passed. We went in as 4/6, THF tank, and carby kite. We got it down to 1 mammet and wiped. We did this 6 times total that night before one of the girls on the team broke down in tears and just quit. (She had been trying to finish this mission for almost a year at this point.)

The fight itself wasn't hard. And, most likely, we could have 5 manned it. That's entirely not the point. The point is it took 2 hours just to get everyone to the BCNM and make sure everybody was prepared...

tl;dr version. Simply because you show up and are prepared doesn't mean everyone else is and will be. The fights themselves are not the hard part. Especially when the fight takes 20-25mins tops.
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By Asura.Braego 2010-05-24 11:31:30
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Asura.Jetzabel said:
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
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I can't imagine having the hots for a step sibling. It would feel so wrong but so exciting at the same time =x

>_>

I am joking lol. I would never do that. I hope.

O.O lol

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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-05-24 11:33:06
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Chupa, that poor girl =(
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By Quetzalcoatl.Caylene 2010-05-24 11:35:54
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I feel so bad for her. I caught a /shout and went with a JP party my first time around, so I got lucky. 1/1.
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By Asura.Malekith 2010-05-24 11:39:01
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Asura.Jetzabel said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Jetzabel said:
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Asura.Jetzabel said:
I can't imagine having the hots for a step sibling. It would feel so wrong but so exciting at the same time =x
>_>
I am joking lol. I would never do that. I hope.
I lol'd

Glad you caught the humour... =3
But isn't this the Peter and Marsha Brady scenario?
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By Diabolos.Chupacabra 2010-05-24 11:39:29
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Ramuh.Krizz said:
Chupa, that poor girl =(

Yeah... she was so excited to finally have gotten 6 people together to do the fight, only to have her dreams smashed repeatedly due to some failure of a rdm. I felt like crap afterwards too. Her and her b/f are both RL friends too. Had the rdm just stuck around for 15-20 mins, they'd have all been a mission closer.

But yeah, people are the issue in CoP, not the missions lol. You can't fix the people, so SE is attempting to fix the mission instead. :)
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-05-24 11:44:23
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Asura.Jetzabel said:
I didn't watch that show, so I wouldn't know =x Time for me to go though, thanks for the discussions guys and take care. See you in a uncapped CoP battle soon! lol
Not this guy. I'm staying away from it.
Diabolos.Chupacabra said:
Ramuh.Krizz said:
Chupa, that poor girl =(

Yeah... she was so excited to finally have gotten 6 people together to do the fight, only to have her dreams smashed repeatedly due to some failure of a rdm. I felt like crap afterwards too. Her and her b/f are both RL friends too. Had the rdm just stuck around for 15-20 mins, they'd have all been a mission closer.

But yeah, people are the issue in CoP, not the missions lol. You can't fix the people, so SE is attempting to fix the mission instead. :)
Yeah, I hated cutting people from my group, but I wasn't going to half-*** it any longer. I picked the folks that always showed up and were serious about getting CoP done.
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By Gilgamesh.Areaden 2010-05-24 11:46:47
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1. Tiger is kind of dickish
2. This is great news for people that still need CoP.

I loved the story for CoP, but i will NEVER redo the fights for anyone. I had a static and got CoP done really fast but at the cost of about 3 friendships. We hated each other after the missions were done. People not doing the CS's right, or not getting pumps and such, and all of this was before they made any changes to CoP.

I am glad they are making the game more accessible for newer players. It gets newer players in Sea and Limbus faster then everyone wins.

And anyone who says "get better friends" or "Game > RL" you are a *** :D and others!

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By Ramuh.Krazyy 2010-05-24 11:58:16
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I just got Sea literally yesterday.. It feels good to have done it before the floodgates open with this next update, but I see why they are changing it. It was very hard for me to get a CoP group, part due to my play times but mainly because no one does the missions anymore. The true "noobs" of the game getting Sea doesnt really effect anything because they still wont have good LSs to mess up Sea events for other people (for the most part).
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-05-24 12:09:06
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The problem with FFXI (and the world :x) is that people want a free ride. It happens all the time, you ask your LS if someone wants to do missions, everyone says yes. However nobody actually wants to do the work, they just want the prize. When I did CoP all anyone did was *** about buying RR, gear, and many other items that made the fights easier.

But anyway, I hope it is easier so all the lazies stop asking people to do the work for them.
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By Sylph.Spiriel 2010-05-24 12:34:13
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Ramuh.Krizz said:
Yeah, I hated cutting people from my group, but I wasn't going to half-*** it any longer. I picked the folks that always showed up and were serious about getting CoP done.
This. Thisthisthisthis.

CoP is not for casual players, who want to be lazy.

CoP is not for you if you don't know how the game works.

CoP is not for you if you're not willing to take ALL the necessary steps.

CoP is not for you if your attention span is shorter than your "measurements," regardless of gender.

If you want to beat CoP, you work your god damned *** off. You show up, you put in the hours, and you don't play around. I stopped helping people with the older missions because they wouldn't take it seriously. I don't know how many times I agreed to help with a Sacrarium run and we'd get to the ghost and someone would say "Oh, I've got Fomor hate because I'm going for a swift belt some day." I got tired of those wipes, because someone was too lazy to clear their hate.

I have pissed people off and made myself look like the biggest damned *** because of CoP. But that's because I show up ready to work, and work hard, and I expect everyone else to do the same. You should have a general idea of what's involved. You have to pay attention. You have to come prepared, with food, RR, and all involved items.

Uncapped CoP zones? Greaaat. This was announced about three days after I beat U/O with my static. However, this is not going to let every naab in the game get through 8-4. iirc, SE said "uncapped zones." They never said the BCs would be uncapped. So there's still some challenge there. Sure, you can breeze through Phomiuna now and beat up Minotaur. But you're going to be under level cap when you face those Mammets. P.S. 3xNIN+3xWHM ftw!

Worse, Sea's always been uncapped. This isn't going to make it easier for them to do the 8-2 escorts. This isn't going to make it easier to solo climb their towers, or even climb them all as a group. This may make the start of the mountain easier, but the end of it will still tear them up and eat them.
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By Siren.Kuz 2010-05-24 12:38:23
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Uncapped CoP zones? Greaaat. This was announced about three days after I beat U/O with my static. However, this is not going to let every naab in the game get through 8-4. iirc, SE said "uncapped zones." They never said the BCs would be uncapped. So there's still some challenge there. Sure, you can breeze through Phomiuna now and beat up Minotaur. But you're going to be under level cap when you face those Mammets. P.S. 3xNIN 3xWHM ftw!

Taken from SE Announcement:
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Level restrictions imposed upon mission battlefields will also be lifted, making the Chains of Promathia missions more accessible than ever before. Adventurers who have yet to delve into the dark secrets of the Twilight God may now proceed with easier hearts!
*No changes are being planned for the storyline or mission progression. Level restrictions will remain in effect for ENM quests.

RAGE I SAY!!!
RAGE HARDER!!!!!
IT SUSTAINS ME!!!


but seriously... yeah
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-05-24 12:38:25
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Sylph.Spiriel said:
CoP is not for you if your attention span is shorter than your "measurements," regardless of gender.
I think I'm laughing at this one more than I should be ;).
Sylph.Spiriel said:
They never said the BCs would be uncapped.
Actually the just did last night/this morning.
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This isn't going to make it easier for them to do the 8-2 escorts. This isn't going to make it easier to solo climb their towers, or even climb them all as a group. This may make the start of the mountain easier, but the end of it will still tear them up and eat them.
Meh those are currently pretty easy to solo anyways
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-05-24 12:44:40
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Siren.Kuz said:
Sylph.Spiriel said:
Uncapped CoP zones? Greaaat. This was announced about three days after I beat U/O with my static. However, this is not going to let every naab in the game get through 8-4. iirc, SE said "uncapped zones." They never said the BCs would be uncapped. So there's still some challenge there. Sure, you can breeze through Phomiuna now and beat up Minotaur. But you're going to be under level cap when you face those Mammets. P.S. 3xNIN 3xWHM ftw!

Taken from SE Announcement:
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Level restrictions imposed upon mission battlefields will also be lifted, making the Chains of Promathia missions more accessible than ever before. Adventurers who have yet to delve into the dark secrets of the Twilight God may now proceed with easier hearts!
*No changes are being planned for the storyline or mission progression. Level restrictions will remain in effect for ENM quests.

RAGE I SAY!!!
RAGE HARDER!!!!!
IT SUSTAINS ME!!!


but seriously... yeah

All the gewd stuff happens when I leave! Rats!
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By Cerberus.Ciecle 2010-05-24 12:45:38
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Since when was climbing the mountain hard? and when was 8-2 escorts not soloable? Rdm/Blm solo climb through the whole place ftw.
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