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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-03 10:23:56
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Speaking of tissues...

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Just a day before Election Day, Vice President Joe Biden told CNN that he “doesn’t agree with the oddsmakers” who are betting that a Republican wave will flip control of the Senate.

“I predict … we’re gonna keep the Senate,” he said in a CNN interview broadcast Monday. “I’ve been in 67 races all told and I don’t get the feeling that the oddsmakers are getting.”

Despite Biden’s optimism, most of the smart money is on the GOP. The party needs to win six seats to wrestle the Senate back from Democrats, but at least ten seats are in play. And while a Republican Senate and Democratic White House are sure to clash on a slew of issues, Biden is hopeful that the parties can find common ground during Obama’s last two years in office.

“The Republicans have to make a decision whether they're in control or not in control,” he said. “Are they gonna begin to allow things to happen? Or are they gonna continue to be obstructionists? And I think they're gonna choose to get things done."

Biden’s been one of the highest-profile Democrats on the trail for embattled candidates this midterm elections, as many Democratic candidates have shied away from appearing with Obama, lest they be tied to the increasingly unpopular president. But Biden’s tour through swing states comes amidst another reality: a potential bid for president in 2016.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is the overwhelming Democratic favorite, but Biden hasn’t been shy in suggesting that he’s weighing another run. He told CNN that he wouldn’t base his decision off of Clinton.

"That's not the reason not to run or to run," he told Borger. "The question is ... am I convinced I am best positioned of anyone else to lead the country the next four years?

(Sidenote: this is a MSN article, so please forgive them for obvious spelling/grammar errors. They aren't known for journalistic excellence)

So, Obama and Biden will be crying lots tomorrow night. Should we send them a care package of tissues?
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-11-03 11:09:15
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, Obama and Biden will be crying lots tomorrow night. Should we send them a care package of tissues?

idk...they don't seem to care a lot about anything...
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-11-03 11:25:32
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, Obama and Biden will be crying lots tomorrow night. Should we send them a care package of tissues?

idk...they don't seem to care a lot about anything...
I would think Obama is more concerned with his marriage falling apart than anything.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-03 11:30:25
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
So, Obama and Biden will be crying lots tomorrow night. Should we send them a care package of tissues?

idk...they don't seem to care a lot about anything...
I would think Obama is more concerned with his marriage falling apart than anything.
"But guys, you got to vote lots tomorrow to keep the mean bad evil bullies from letting me legislate have stuff for the next 2 years!"

That's his argument....
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-11-03 11:50:26
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things were a lot worse that one time when what's his name was president....
By volkom 2014-11-03 11:59:17
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
things were a lot worse that one time when what's his name was president....

Warren G. Harding? or James Buchanan?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-03 12:01:20
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volkom said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
things were a lot worse that one time when what's his name was president....

Warren G. Harding?
It's obvious that Nik is talking about William H. Harrison.

The fool probably even voted for him, and was at his inauguration ceremony too.
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2014-11-03 18:31:34
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If the republicans take the senate, the only difference will be the news networks swapping stories and replacing who is to blame for congress not getting anything done.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-11-03 19:31:43
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Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
If the republicans take the senate, the only difference will be the news networks swapping stories and replacing who is to blame for congress not getting anything done.

Pretty much, nothing is going to happen in 2015-2016 regardless.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-11-03 19:36:25
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i still find it baffling that in this day and age ppl can be blind and ignorant enough to follow a 'party' blindly....
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-03 19:37:37
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Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
If the republicans take the senate, the only difference will be the news networks swapping stories and replacing who is to blame for congress not getting anything done.

Only the Republicans and Obama would be left for blame. The news networks make little difference anymore. Cats outta the bag which network is owned by either side. Isn't it interesting that the most "do nothing house" is filling with more R and the senate is bleeding D? People may have finally stopped listening to the "news".
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-03 19:38:12
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
If the republicans take the senate, the only difference will be the news networks swapping stories and replacing who is to blame for congress not getting anything done.

Pretty much, nothing is going to happen in 2015-2016 regardless.


Nothing but veto veto veto.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-03 19:39:31
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Odin.Godofgods said: »
i still find it baffling that in this day and age ppl can be blind and ignorant enough to follow a 'party' blindly....

Please enlighten us on how we are going to change this problem of a two party system?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-11-03 19:51:21
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Nothing is going to make it to the WH.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-03 20:31:07
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Nothing is going to make it to the WH.

Bold statement. Please explain.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-11-03 20:43:46
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Pretty simple, the GOP is not going to have enough votes to break a filibuster.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-03 21:59:35
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Pretty simple, the GOP is not going to have enough votes to break a filibuster.


Nothing would be better than have the Democrats filibuster what the republican party was (is about to be) put in senate to do.

All that would accomplish is a Republican President and more senate and house loses in 2016.

Democrats want to keep the voters occupied with handouts, abortion and other gayness.

So by all means Filibuster everything that comes down the pipes because Democrats have nothing to fall back on in the first place.


P.S. Are you even capable of responding with more than one (occasionally two) sentences?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-11-03 22:05:55
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Altimaomega said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Pretty simple, the GOP is not going to have enough votes to break a filibuster.


Nothing would be better than have the Democrats filibuster what the republican party was (is about to be) put in senate to do.

All that would accomplish is a Republican President and more senate and house loses in 2016.

Democrats want to keep the voters occupied with handouts, abortion and other gayness.

So by all means Filibuster everything that comes down the pipes because Democrats have nothing to fall back on in the first place.


P.S. Are you even capable of responding with more than one (occasionally two) sentences?


If Republicans gain a majority in the Senate, it would be a pretty good indication that filibustering and other obstructionist tactics are a good way to get elected. With very few exceptions, partisan control of the Presidency alternates with every president. If you discount the presidents who served 2 consecutive terms or people who weren't elected like Ford, only 2 times in the last 150 years have 2 members of the same party occupied the White House back to back. It would be quite unusual for a Republican to not be the next president. Similarly in Congress, partisan control of each house alternates almost every election cycle, with midterms having a slightly lower turnover rate.

It's the undecided voters that swing elections in places where the base isn't overwhelmingly one party or another, and, in general, they vote for the opposite of who was there last.


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Pretty simple, the GOP is not going to have enough votes to break a filibuster.

Or a supermajority to overturn a presidential veto. Without cooperation, nothing of consequence could come from either party controlling both houses while the other controls the White House. No doubt they'll try to defund ACA, which would be like saying "this bandaid didn't instantly heal my wound, better rip it off and let it bleed".
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-11-03 22:14:45
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A one sentence explanation was all that was required, it completely covers why nothing will reach the WH. As for your baseless assumptions, not even worth responding to. Filibustering doesn't flip states. Expect the exact opposite situation for the Senate GOP in 2016, as they will have to be defending a lot of seats in blue states.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-03 22:22:34
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
A one sentence explanation was all that was required, it completely covers why nothing will reach the WH. As for your baseless assumptions, not even worth responding to. Filibustering doesn't flip states. Expect the exact opposite situation for the Senate GOP in 2016, as they will have to be defending a lot of seats in blue states.
See, this is why you are wrong on so many levels:

A GOP Congress would produce a whole lot of bills that the president would never sign, which will place him in the one position he never has been before in his political career: accountability.

See, by having a bill go to him straight away (instead of having his lapdog Reid preventing any bills from reaching the White House by not even bringing up any House bills to the Senate floor), Obama is placed in either vetoing a bill, or signing it. Either way, it makes Obama accountable for what he does, instead of denying anything he has been doing for the past 6 years.

Which will be detrimental for Clinton, since she is basically Obama v.2. Anything he passes, his liberal base will hate him (and Clinton) for it. Anything he veto's, everyone else will hate him (and Clinton) for it.

So, a Republican Senate tomorrow night will almost guarantee a Republican president in 2016. Which is why Obama and his cronies are so anxious to "get the vote out" which also is detrimental to his cause (since people will tend to vote against Obama, not for him, thanks to his dismal popularity).
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-03 22:28:15
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
A one sentence explanation was all that was required, it completely covers why nothing will reach the WH. As for your baseless assumptions, not even worth responding to. Filibustering doesn't flip states. Expect the exact opposite situation for the Senate GOP in 2016, as they will have to be defending a lot of seats in blue states.

Congrats on four sentences you almost made an entire paragraph!
/Standing ovation.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-03 22:30:24
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
A one sentence explanation was all that was required, it completely covers why nothing will reach the WH. As for your baseless assumptions, not even worth responding to. Filibustering doesn't flip states. Expect the exact opposite situation for the Senate GOP in 2016, as they will have to be defending a lot of seats in blue states.
See, this is why you are wrong on so many levels:

A GOP Congress would produce a whole lot of bills that the president would never sign, which will place him in the one position he never has been before in his political career: accountability.

See, by having a bill go to him straight away (instead of having his lapdog Reid preventing any bills from reaching the White House by not even bringing up any House bills to the Senate floor), Obama is placed in either vetoing a bill, or signing it. Either way, it makes Obama accountable for what he does, instead of denying anything he has been doing for the past 6 years.

Which will be detrimental for Clinton, since she is basically Obama v.2. Anything he passes, his liberal base will hate him (and Clinton) for it. Anything he veto's, everyone else will hate him (and Clinton) for it.

So, a Republican Senate tomorrow night will almost guarantee a Republican president in 2016. Which is why Obama and his cronies are so anxious to "get the vote out" which also is detrimental to his cause (since people will tend to vote against Obama, not for him, thanks to his dismal popularity).

In Vic's defense, he voted for Obama twice. Please don't expect much from him.
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By Altimaomega 2014-11-03 22:35:21
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On another note. It's slightly possible for the republicans to get 60 seats tomorrow. While this only has a slim chance of happening lets say it does.. Is it racist to Tar and Feather the POS out of the white house? I could think of other things that ARE racist.. but tar and feathers would suffice..
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-11-03 22:38:06
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
A one sentence explanation was all that was required, it completely covers why nothing will reach the WH. As for your baseless assumptions, not even worth responding to. Filibustering doesn't flip states. Expect the exact opposite situation for the Senate GOP in 2016, as they will have to be defending a lot of seats in blue states.
See, this is why you are wrong on so many levels:

A GOP Congress would produce a whole lot of bills that the president would never sign, which will place him in the one position he never has been before in his political career: accountability.

See, by having a bill go to him straight away (instead of having his lapdog Reid preventing any bills from reaching the White House by not even bringing up any House bills to the Senate floor), Obama is placed in either vetoing a bill, or signing it. Either way, it makes Obama accountable for what he does, instead of denying anything he has been doing for the past 6 years.

Which will be detrimental for Clinton, since she is basically Obama v.2. Anything he passes, his liberal base will hate him (and Clinton) for it. Anything he veto's, everyone else will hate him (and Clinton) for it.

So, a Republican Senate tomorrow night will almost guarantee a Republican president in 2016. Which is why Obama and his cronies are so anxious to "get the vote out" which also is detrimental to his cause (since people will tend to vote against Obama, not for him, thanks to his dismal popularity).

All assumptions, like I said, nothing will reach the WH. The GOP is not picking up 13 seats, btw. You guys have nothing.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-11-03 22:38:48
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Altimaomega said: »
On another note. It's slightly possible for the republicans to get 60 seats tomorrow. While this only has a slim chance of happening lets say it does.. Is it racist to Tar and Feather the POS out of the white house? I could think of other things that ARE racist.. but tar and feathers would suffice..

60 votes won't remove a President. Too bad.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-11-03 22:48:20
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
A one sentence explanation was all that was required, it completely covers why nothing will reach the WH. As for your baseless assumptions, not even worth responding to. Filibustering doesn't flip states. Expect the exact opposite situation for the Senate GOP in 2016, as they will have to be defending a lot of seats in blue states.
See, this is why you are wrong on so many levels:

A GOP Congress would produce a whole lot of bills that the president would never sign, which will place him in the one position he never has been before in his political career: accountability.

See, by having a bill go to him straight away (instead of having his lapdog Reid preventing any bills from reaching the White House by not even bringing up any House bills to the Senate floor), Obama is placed in either vetoing a bill, or signing it. Either way, it makes Obama accountable for what he does, instead of denying anything he has been doing for the past 6 years.

Which will be detrimental for Clinton, since she is basically Obama v.2. Anything he passes, his liberal base will hate him (and Clinton) for it. Anything he veto's, everyone else will hate him (and Clinton) for it.

So, a Republican Senate tomorrow night will almost guarantee a Republican president in 2016. Which is why Obama and his cronies are so anxious to "get the vote out" which also is detrimental to his cause (since people will tend to vote against Obama, not for him, thanks to his dismal popularity).

All assumptions, like I said, nothing will reach the WH. The GOP is not picking up 13 seats, btw. You guys have nothing.


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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-11-03 22:56:28
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I will take that as a concession, as I said, you have nothing. Nothing will reach the WH, nothing will remove the President.
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By Enuyasha 2014-11-04 00:35:18
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I think Louisiana will opt out of one seat atleast...but only because people are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

That, and they cant tell that the governor of the state has more control of the local level than the Senator does. So they cant add 1+1= Jindal up in their addled minds.

Its kind of disgusting really.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-11-04 04:05:05
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No doubt they'll try to defund ACA, which would be like saying "this bandaid didn't instantly heal my wound, better rip it off and let it bleed".


Actually this is starting to have severe impacts on company medical plans across the nation. I'm no where near an executive and yet my medical insurance is about to skyrocket to absurd amounts. We just got briefed about it the other day due to it being the new fiscal year and time to re-elect benefits. I'm lucky in that I live in a foreign country with affordable healthcare so I can just go on the economy as it's cheaper then using insurance. Many of my coworkers stateside aren't as fortunate.

Seriously the whole thing needs redone as it's untenable. It's basically shoveling money into big Pharma and giving insurance companies a huge excuse to skyrocket rates.
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