Does Islam Require Forced Conversions?

She's talking about your lack of sleep due to the child having his own cycles and calling for help in the middle of the night for many weeks.

I was about to mention that amniocentesis can't pick up on everything, and can be evasive and risky in itself.

Re-read what I wrote.

Your sleep. As in you, the adult.

Every human is just a few days of sleep deprivation away from crazy.

Raising a child is mentally and physically straining.

Children are heavily influenced by their environment and the emotions (hormones) in that environment. When the adult is stressed, the kid is stressed.

If you don't want to or can't feel emotion your childs early learning development will be impacted.

No, what's silly is the fact that you think you can control all of these factors. If you haven't had a child yet, you're absolutely clueless. If there is a parent in this thread that disagrees with me, be my guest and correct me.

You know this all started cause you said the children will do nothing but study. Cause you want it to be their entertainment.

Well it doesn't work that way. I love learning too, as many other people do as well, but other forms of entertainment are needed. Playing is a necessity for the development of a child, his games can't only be books..he'll want to kick a ball, swim, run around, sing, roleplay, and so on.

But you said he can only study.

Did somebody say "All that jazz"?

You see, children have to be manipulated to get them to enjoy the thing you're trying to get them to do. In order to get them to only study, you have to force it into their brains that everything else is bad. This is clearly the utopian ideal we're shooting for.

And that is part of learning for children.

I know you're incapable of returning my feelings, Refresh, but I love you. I don't care who knows it.

EDIT: Songs from 'Chicago' are officially stuck in my head.

Yes, kids. You can only have the fun I decide is fun. And fun to me (someone who plays video games) is watching you work. Now go drag your atrophied muscles that I won't let you use over to your books/art/music that I've supplied for your enjoyment.

I better go to sleep, wouldn't wanna lose those IQ points.

The IQ race is real!

I just hope thread doesn't get deleted while I'm away!

Somebody clearly doesn't understand Pleebo's brand of humor.

Well my i-don't-want-to-sleep-because-there-is-soooo-much-to-see-and-do baby finally went back to sleep.

Have fun and all that jazz

You can't know that, a person won't enjoy something simply because you tell them to

LOL. Please refer me to your advanced degree in child development. I'll be waiting.

I never grew up around skydiving either, but I see it and I think, "That could be fun." You can't control your kids forever. They'll see how restricted they are at home and, as soon as they get a taste of what freedom is like, they'll never want to go back.

Clearly if you have high IQ you will love playing advanced instrument.

You can't control what a child will be exposed to out in the world, it doesn't even need to be a long time

What if he goes to a friend's house to play? They might have video games or RC cars and he might develop an interest in them

You can't lock your kid up forever just because you don't want him to have any 'bad' hobbies and when kids enter a rebellious phase they won't care what you think and will leave the house and do whatever they want.

You can't control them as much as you think

Oh, yellow fever.

When I was 14-16, I liked women who were at the very least 1m78, very pale skin and if possible, asian.
Then I grew up and all those childish standards vanished. Now I just hope they are somewhat mentaly stable.

If you go by average, Ashkenazi women have the highest average I believe. They're considered white, aren't they?

I quit school in 10th grade. My roommate was a coworker with whom I became friend, his life experience is a mountain compared to mine.

I dislike the French school system, which is why I left it. They wouldn't let me graduate with a 80% absentee rate anyway, so I had no choice.

I just try to understand all the possible variables before diving into something. And the situation of raising a child to be superior to yourself made me reach the conclusion I posted earlier.

I'm personally not attracted to the idea of building my children to be this or that, I find it much more fascinating to give them the tools and show them all the possibilities then carefully watch what they choose and help them in their endeavour. I like to observe things, not manipulate them.

So, ya, your idea is an utopia. I don't know how old you are, maybe you're still young and think it's that easy to raise a child to be a certain way, but I can tell you that it's very difficult. I've dealt with children a lot and I've seen parents crack their teeth trying to shape their kids into better versions of themselves.

Think of it that way, you can never shape kids to be what you want them to be, you can only show them the possibilities and help them reach what they want to be. It's a beautiful thing in my opinion, I would feel really bad if I forced my kids to be something they aren't.