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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2014-10-06 12:59:14
It's a very polarizing stage. Hazards are a problem and the sides doubly so because it's so easy to convert into walkoff kills there. I can think of several characters that would absolutely thrive on that stage and others that would be at a noticeable disadvantage.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2014-10-06 13:22:02
Tomodachi Life and Arena Ferox would be my next suggestions. Beyond that... Brinstar, Corneria, Reset Bomb Forest, Tortimer Island, and Prism Tower. Prism Tower for sure, maybe Arena Ferox, the rest kind of suck. Tortimer Island isn't bad, but it zooms the screen way out whenever the boat makes port which is quite annoying.
I'd personally do Battlefield, Final Destination, Prism Tower, Yoshi's Island, and Arena Ferox. Along with any Ω stage.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2014-10-06 13:55:09
The only problem with Ferox is its size, it's a fantastic doubles/FFA stage. Discrepancies in mobility could easily turn into this if one was so inclined. Prism Tower's pretty decent, the walkoff is only there for like 15 seconds per cycle and the only other risk is getting trapped on a rising platform at bad time (rare).
They all have issues to some degree (vertical advantage on Tomodachi, acid on Brinstar, Arwings on Corneria, the transformation on RBF, items on Tortimer), they're just the least bad options that I saw to expand the stagelist beyond the obvious viable stages. If Sakurai had just included an option to turn off stage hazards then most of the non-walkoff stages would be viable (especially since wall infinites seem to be gone), but noooooooo that'd be ripping off a game that ripped off Smash Bros. Instead we get omega mode. Dumb.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2014-10-06 13:58:51
Prism Tower is pretty close to Lylat Cruise and Ferox is close to Pokemon Stadium other than the bigger size. The only good stages really are FD, Battlefield, YI, and Ω ones. Kind of lame.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2014-10-06 14:18:18
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I take back what I said about allowing Corneria.
By tarupowa 2014-10-06 14:21:34
Count me in for both! so, i have a stupid question, just cause im me. ive been beating all my friends with mii characters, are they available in online matches with friend only(i assume we have to add FC and go there to fight eachother)? i really like playing as the mii's so hoping that will be available lol if not i gotta go find an actual character to main.
oh and my FC is: 5413-0472-2547
i probably have some of you added already from the pokemon tournaments lol
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-06 14:25:59
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I take back what I said about allowing Corneria. Wait, I don't get it.
If you absorb the lasers on the Corneria stage, it automatically explodes next to your opponent?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2014-10-06 14:26:43
They're friend only. I don't think neither Mii nor equipment should be allowed personally.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-06 14:27:53
They're friend only. I don't think neither Mii nor equipment should be allowed personally. Mii, I don't know, if enough people don't want Mii characters allowed, then sure, we will ban them.
Equipment, not allowed.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2014-10-06 14:29:46
There wasn't any info either way on the OP.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-06 14:32:22
The "No Equipment Rule" is in the rules now.
By tarupowa 2014-10-06 14:32:51
They're friend only. I don't think neither Mii nor equipment should be allowed personally. Mii, I don't know, if enough people don't want Mii characters allowed, then sure, we will ban them. Equipment, not allowed. i meant does the game let you use them, cause i know on for glory it doesnt?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2014-10-06 14:34:18
If you absorb the lasers on the Corneria stage, it automatically explodes next to your opponent? That seems to be the gist of it. Ness and Rosalina's absorbs cause the lasers to reappear at the same height and slightly to the right of your opponent (instantly exploding if there's an object at the position where they reappear). G&W's bucket 1HKOs if you absorb a laser from the Great Fox.
By tarupowa 2014-10-06 14:49:19
If you absorb the lasers on the Corneria stage, it automatically explodes next to your opponent? That seems to be the gist of it. Ness and Rosalina's absorbs cause the lasers to reappear at the same height and slightly to the right of your opponent (instantly exploding if there's an object at the position where they reappear). G&W's bucket 1HKOs if you absorb a laser from Great Fox. yeah that looks like it could be troubling lol
By tarupowa 2014-10-06 15:59:58
free bump, i got my brother to help me check, mii's are allowed in friends. my vote is obviously to use them lol cause u said noone was banned :P i just like their movesets
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-06 16:09:52
So far, only 1 person want's Miis to be banned.
If you want Miis to be banned, please [+] this post. If I get 2 [+] before 10/12/14, then they will be banned.
Edit: Not including Austar, since he was the one who suggested it.
Ok, I seen 3 people who want Miis, so now there's got to be 3 [+] to counter it.
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By Ohji Lunartail 2014-10-06 16:27:34
Could ban them but thats also why i mentioned a Mii only tourny also in my post earlyer in the thread,
Also its pretty much the only char ive used since friday lol
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2014-10-06 16:37:10
What is it about Miis that people are against in a tournament setting? Does it have something broken about it, or is it just the moveset customization irking people?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-06 16:39:37
Could ban them but thats also why i mentioned a Mii only tourny also in my post earlyer in the thread,
Also its pretty much the only char ive used since friday lol Yeah, I would have included a 3rd tourny, but I wouldn't have time to organize and keep track of 3 tournies.
That's why I initially left Miis on the table and wanted to see if people didn't want them.
What is it about Miis that people are against in a tournament setting? Does it have something broken about it, or is it just the moveset customization irking people? Got me, my Mii does pretty well, but I don't see it as being OP.
By tarupowa 2014-10-06 16:45:29
Could ban them but thats also why i mentioned a Mii only tourny also in my post earlyer in the thread, Also its pretty much the only char ive used since friday lol Yeah, I would have included a 3rd tourny, but I wouldn't have time to organize and keep track of 3 tournies. That's why I initially left Miis on the table and wanted to see if people didn't want them. What is it about Miis that people are against in a tournament setting? Does it have something broken about it, or is it just the moveset customization irking people? Got me, my Mii does pretty well, but I don't see it as being OP. i just like the mii cause you can choose the moves, and you can be a powerhouse or a projectile. its kinda my playstyle to swap around a lot so i like the customizability lol
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By Ohji Lunartail 2014-10-06 16:50:20
Plus if people have problems with the equips they CAN be removed, tho tbh with out them they seem sub-par, they kinda help them keep up with other chars.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-06 16:52:08
Equips are not allowed anyway.
Got to fight naked!
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By tarupowa 2014-10-06 16:53:21
Plus if people have problems with the equips they CAN be removed, tho tbh with out them they seem sub-par, they kinda help them keep up with other chars. and other chars get equips too :P but equipment is a no-go in tourny so were all good lol. i just think its unfair to take out one of the weaker characters(as the polulace considers) instead of one of those "OP" characters lol
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2014-10-06 17:35:47
What is it about Miis that people are against in a tournament setting? Does it have something broken about it, or is it just the moveset customization irking people? With the amount of customization they get, it could be an advantage when they know every move you have and you're not seeing what they are capable of until they decide to use it
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-10-06 17:45:35
What is it about Miis that people are against in a tournament setting? Does it have something broken about it, or is it just the moveset customization irking people? With the amount of customization they get, it could be an advantage when they know every move you have and you're not seeing what they are capable of until they decide to use it This. Which also brings up the question: are custom move sets going to be allowed on the normal roster?
Also since it seems like everyone loves the Miis I think things would get boring quickly, even with differing move sets seeing Miis over and over again is just... Blah.
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By Ohji Lunartail 2014-10-06 18:00:14
well i'm out then since this could of been something fun but has turned into a conceded *** fest of allowing OP chars but not ones people have fun with
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-10-06 18:03:45
Keep Miis, no point in losing people.
Also, what *** fest? There were logical points made and no one exclusively bitched about the Miis. Not to be rude but your post seems bitchier than anything else I've seen this page. :/
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By tarupowa 2014-10-06 18:09:25
well i'm out then since this could of been something fun but has turned into a conceded *** fest of allowing OP chars but not ones people have fun with thats basicly how i see it, to be fair, they are pretty mediocre compared to say, little mac or bowser, the ones you see the most online. Keep Miis, no point in losing people. Also, what *** fest? There were logical points made and no one exclusively bitched about the Miis. Not to be rude but your post seems bitchier than anything else I've seen this page. :/ This! athousand times this!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-06 18:09:48
Added my FC btw.
Also, what happened?
Edit: Well, seeing that more people want Mii fighters than not, why not make a 3rd tourny. A Mii only tourny.
I'll try to work that in somehow. If you don't want to be in Mii only tourny, just say so.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2014-10-06 18:16:56
I'd be fine with a mii fighter if I could have a practice round or two against said Mii before going into the scored rounds; but going into a fight completely blind is just unfair.
Not something I'd drop out of the tourney for, but still not something I'd vote for, either
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Preliminary Page: Will bring rules at a later date.
This thread is to start creating awareness of a possible 3DS tournament for everyone here and to gauge interest.
Will more likely be a preliminary round based on the number of participants where everyone fights each other once, and the number of wins determines ranking and placement on the actual bracket, where it will be a single fight against 2 opponents.
Ideas on if preliminaries would be 2 vs. or 4 vs. and points awarded depended on place of winners.
Also would need to know if items would be allowed or not. Smash Balls also.
Need ideas so I can setup the rules.
Edit: Would like a mod to sticky this please.
Edit 10/6/14: Rules are as follows (preliminary)
Battles will be Best of 3 series. Stock of 3 per battle. It will be 1 vs. 1 fights due to a small number of people joining.
You can change your characters between fights.
Items are allowed in the item tourny. There may be specific items disallowed if people want them disallowed.
Items are not allowed in the no-item tourny. That includes Smash Balls! In that case, the battlefields will be in Omega version to prevent any "accidental" items.
Battlefields will be set per match. Final Destination will the battlefield of the finals though, Normal for items and Omega for non-items.
Registration starts now. It will end on October 12, 2014 @ 11:59 P.M. PST. Schedule for the preliminaries will be released shortly afterwards.
Depending on the number of people registered, there will be multiple battles between the same people. In that case, you cannot fight the same person on the same day after a match. Got to wait until JP midnight for that!
There are no banned characters. If you constantly fail to Metaknight, that's cause you haven't realized his true weakness yet.
No Equipment allowed for either tournament!
Rules are not final until the end of the registration period. Be prepared for changes depending on suggestions of the competitors.
Rules Update 10/7:
These rules will be the same for the first WiiU tournament. There will be 3 tournies for the WiiU at start, items/no items/Mii.
There will be twist to this first tournament! The first winner of the Smash Bros. 3DS tournament will receive this very special prize! The winner of the first 3DS tournament will be banned from using that character on the first WiiU tournament. The winner can still participate, just got to use a different character.
This ruling was overwritten by the majority vote.
This is the list of stages available for fighting are:
Battlefield
Yoshi's Island
Tomodachi Life
Arena Ferox
Brinstar
Corneria This stage has been banned until Nintendo fixes that bomb glitch.
Reset Bomb Forest
Toritemer Island
Prism Island
List may be updated, but these are the stages to be used in this tournament!
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