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 Fenrir.Shznittle
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By Fenrir.Shznittle 2014-06-13 13:32:59
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Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
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Zoltar said: »
You can read about inflation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

and recession: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession

Come on bro, as much the explanation is appreciated, gotta use better references than wikipedia...
If you want "better" references, help yourself with the references listed in the Wikipedia page. Bro.

Oh hey guys, lets believe everything we read on the internet and bathroom stall readings because they're such reliable resources...
I guess you never read a book or periodical or bother to check the references because most of them are not internet sources.

What kind of response is that? you're contradicting yourself...I'm not the one that used Wikipedia (internet source) as a reference...

You dont make any sense, try again...

He's not contradicting himself... Look at the references at the end of the wiki, and you'll see that they reference books.

k, i'm gonna shut up and stop pretending that we're writing a college paper or something and yield to you guys having a point...but the point is wikipedia isnt the most reliable resource
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-06-13 13:34:48
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...Which is why the references are there, so if you don't believe the wiki, you can check for yourself ;)
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 ScaevolaBahamut
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2014-06-13 13:54:55
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Wikipedia's editorial process is about as robust as you could possibly hope for, and it's consistently as accurate a source as any print encyclopedia.

You shouldn't rely on it as a primary source, but all that means is that you ought to use it for its intended purpose.

SOURCE: IRL LIBRARIAN
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-06-13 14:00:34
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Not to mention the fact that slamming Wikipedia as an unreliable source only works if you can actually point out problems with the pages that were linked.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2014-06-13 14:30:17
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Was hoping for some amusement, but this thread got dumb it seems.
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By Fenrir.Shznittle 2014-06-13 15:11:02
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Not to mention the fact that slamming Wikipedia as an unreliable source only works if you can actually point out problems with the pages that were linked.

you can write 1+1=2 in a bathroom stall and the content is correct...but it doesn't take away from the fact that its written in a bathroom stall


Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Was hoping for some amusement, but this thread got dumb it seems.

yea my fault sorry, but the amusement has already been had and discussed about the nerf...you can hit "first page" and start from there
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By Bismarck.Hsieh 2014-06-13 15:15:26
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Fenrir.Shznittle said: »
k, i'm gonna shut up and stop pretending that we're writing a college paper or something and yield to you guys having a point...but the point is wikipedia isnt the most reliable resource

you can write 1+1=2 in a bathroom stall and the content is correct...but it doesn't take away from the fact that its written in a bathroom stall


Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Was hoping for some amusement, but this thread got dumb it seems.

yea my fault sorry, but the amusement has already been had and discussed about the nerf...you can hit "first page" and start from there
I thought you were going to shut up now? I guess I shouldn't believe everything I read on the internet!
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By Fenrir.Shznittle 2014-06-13 15:26:40
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Bismarck.Hsieh said: »
Fenrir.Shznittle said: »
k, i'm gonna shut up and stop pretending that we're writing a college paper or something and yield to you guys having a point...but the point is wikipedia isnt the most reliable resource

you can write 1+1=2 in a bathroom stall and the content is correct...but it doesn't take away from the fact that its written in a bathroom stall


Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Was hoping for some amusement, but this thread got dumb it seems.

yea my fault sorry, but the amusement has already been had and discussed about the nerf...you can hit "first page" and start from there
I thought you were going to shut up now? I guess I shouldn't believe everything I read on the internet!

assuming we get past wiki and back to the topic at hand? sure...
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2014-06-13 15:44:41
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Fenrir.Shznittle said: »

you can write 1+1=2 in a bathroom stall and the content is correct...but it doesn't take away from the fact that its written in a bathroom stall

Brother, wikipedia is not the bathroom stall no matter how silly a luddite your gen-ed humanities TA was being when he told you it was.

It is an encylopedia. The reason it works despite being so accessible to edit (and the reason why the hand-wringing during my MLS in '07 was so unfounded) is that at the end of the day if you have your sources it is not difficult to competently write an encyclopedia entry. I have no problem with educators trying to downplay its effectiveness in an effort to combat what they see as an inappropriate reliance on it by their students, that's totes fair, but all they need to say is, "You will not cite the Britannica in this class, and you won't cite Wikipedia, either."
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By Fenrir.Magicstick 2014-06-13 16:15:14
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Maybe its not a NERF...? Maybe they are increasing the sales price? :D
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-13 16:19:37
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Maybe SE just evening the price, 1 more opening day mean about 12% more minnows/days so watch thoise fish price drop by like 12%.
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By Asura.Izilder 2014-06-13 16:21:41
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I feel more sad for Spanish football than any fishing change.
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By Fenrir.Shznittle 2014-06-13 16:23:44
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Asura.Ccl said: »
Maybe SE just evening the price, 1 more opening day mean about 12% more minnows/days so watch thoise fish price drop by like 12%.

interesting opinion, but i think many people are assuming its going to be completely nerfed like 1k or below for haks...
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By Siren.Namelessone 2014-06-13 16:33:40
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Fenrir.Magicstick said: »
Maybe its not a NERF...? Maybe they are increasing the sales price? :D
love how some ppl just have to put their word in without reading or anything.
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By Fenrir.Magicstick 2014-06-13 16:40:14
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Siren.Namelessone said: »
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Maybe its not a NERF...? Maybe they are increasing the sales price? :D
love how some ppl just have to put their word in without reading or anything.

Oh ya? What did I miss? I was pretty sure I read most of it...
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By Siren.Namelessone 2014-06-13 16:41:36
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Fenrir.Magicstick said: »
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Maybe its not a NERF...? Maybe they are increasing the sales price? :D
love how some ppl just have to put their word in without reading or anything.

Oh ya? What did I miss? I was pretty sure I read most of it...
"Reduce the vendoring price of hakuryu, sekiryu, soryu, and kokuryu." only sentence about the price of fish.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-13 16:42:30
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Oooh a fish bot nerf? finally :O

The game isn't hard to make gil just gotta invest

in time instead of being lazy and fish botting away.

End up having people with relics mythics emps etc who

can't even play the jobs properly let alone try and

buy some meds for events @.@

It has kinda gotten to the point where a mythic is a sign of a bad player, lol. I can't believe how many time I've been in parties with mythic holders who have no clue how to use them.
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By Fenrir.Magicstick 2014-06-13 16:44:49
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Siren.Namelessone said: »
Fenrir.Magicstick said: »
Siren.Namelessone said: »
Fenrir.Magicstick said: »
Maybe its not a NERF...? Maybe they are increasing the sales price? :D
love how some ppl just have to put their word in without reading or anything.

Oh ya? What did I miss? I was pretty sure I read most of it...
"Reduce the vendoring price of hakuryu, sekiryu, soryu, and kokuryu." only sentence about the price of fish.

Ah ya I must of over looked that. I seen "Adjusting of certain fish sale prices". My bad.
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By Fenrir.Shznittle 2014-06-13 16:49:59
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Monai said: »
Oooh a fish bot nerf? finally :O

The game isn't hard to make gil just gotta invest

in time instead of being lazy and fish botting away.

End up having people with relics mythics emps etc who

can't even play the jobs properly let alone try and

buy some meds for events @.@

It has kinda gotten to the point where a mythic is a sign of a bad player, lol. I can't believe how many time I've been in parties with mythic holders who have no clue how to use them.

That sucks...your server must be worst off, only a handful of NAs running around with mythics on Fenrir and most of them are from elite Linkshells.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-13 16:52:53
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Odin.Jassik said: »
It has kinda gotten to the point where a mythic is a sign of a bad player, lol. I can't believe how many time I've been in parties with mythic holders who have no clue how to use them.


Come to Asura, people from my ls stopping playing "let's parse" since I made koga :(
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2014-06-13 16:54:03
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Awww, no more stupid floods of Ebisu Sunday pics :(
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By Siren.Namelessone 2014-06-13 16:59:39
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Fenrir.Richybear said: »
Awww, no more stupid floods of Ebisu Sunday pics :(
I have easily seen 20 drings since the last time I seen a ebisu pic.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-13 17:09:01
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Also I'm surprised people still fish botting since there is easier/better way to bot farm gil afk now
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By Aikawa 2014-06-13 17:29:17
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Also I'm surprised people still fish botting since there is easier/better way to bot farm gil afk now
guess because after having the "fisher" is equipped(and is "easier") you don't need anything else for that...
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-13 17:30:35
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Ebisu and fishing 100 is still uber long/annoying.
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By Gruknor 2014-06-13 20:44:55
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Asura.Ccl said: »
Also I'm surprised people still fish botting since there is easier/better way to bot farm gil afk now
What would that be? You can pm me the answer if you do not want to post it on a forum.
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By Bahamut.Shinjiro 2014-06-13 21:06:02
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Gruknor said: »
Asura.Ccl said: »
Also I'm surprised people still fish botting since there is easier/better way to bot farm gil afk now
What would that be? You can pm me the answer if you do not want to post it on a forum.

yes please
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-13 21:07:09
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I'm happy they are nerfing haku, so I won't tell people how to bot more gil lol
 
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-06-13 21:18:54
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Summoner standing in the boyahda tree puddles finishing sparks trials with an avatar out that kills crab aggros. Bring some mules to afk nearby and wake up with pluton cases and shitload of sparks for everyone

YOU JUST KILLED XI HOW DARE YOU!
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