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Death Penalty
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-12-22 07:41:51
Didn't find another thread about this weapon, so here we go~
Tested the lv 95 weapon to see what the QD enhancement IV does. Results show a 48% damage increase. There's probably also accuracy involved, but I'm not entirely sure how to test that.
In the future I'll try to test Leaden Salute and aftermath as well.
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Fenrir.Ruebyy
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By Fenrir.Ruebyy 2012-01-05 05:00:43
I Love you~
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-01-05 06:17:42
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Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-05-08 10:31:14
Pardon the necro bump, but I wanted to see if you (or anyone else) had done this testing before I get myself setup on the test server to do some tests myself.
I recently finished Yoichinoyumi and instead of making Annihilator and sitting and wishing repeatedly that Corsair could use it (never going to happen), maybe I’ll just go ahead and make a Death Penalty after all. Probably going to go through with it no matter what just because I figure it’s something I should really have for as much as I like Corsair, but wanted to see how I can expect it to perform at 99.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2012-05-08 10:38:06
Pardon the necro bump, but I wanted to see if you (or anyone else) had done this testing before I get myself setup on the test server to do some tests myself.
I recently finished Yoichinoyumi and instead of making Annihilator and sitting and wishing repeatedly that Corsair could use it (never going to happen), maybe I’ll just go ahead and make a Death Penalty after all. Probably going to go through with it no matter what just because I figure it’s something I should really have for as much as I like Corsair, but wanted to see how I can expect it to perform at 99.
QD dmg+60%, LS dmg +30%
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-05-08 11:06:21
Hmm. I hate math so bad.
How does that compare to the 12 higher base damage of level 99 Armageddon, I wonder.
Again, pretty sure I've made up my mind to do it either way just for the sake of the job.
My initial thought is that your Quick Draws will be stronger despite the base damage difference and Leaden Salute will be notably weaker because of its lower mods, even with the 30% boost.
Ragnarok.Stiel
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By Ragnarok.Stiel 2012-05-08 11:15:42
not to mention that double/triple damage afthermat 3,that if work like others,should proc on ws too,no one ever talk about this right? XD
Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-08 11:17:12
Also, no reliable Dark Shot bonus, (minor issue) inferior TP staff, etc.
AM3 is probably not worth actvating, you'd be better off using Last Stand, I think.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-08 11:17:31
not to mention that double/triple damage afthermat 3,that if work like others,should proc on ws too,no one ever talk about this right? XD
does not
Bismarck.Zagen
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By Bismarck.Zagen 2012-05-08 11:31:22
Armageddon 99: [2 * (76 + 89 + 10)] * 1.21] = 423.5
Armageddon 99 + Staff: [2 * (76 + 89 + 10)] * 1.21] * 1.15 = 487.025
Armageddon 99 + Staff + /RDM: [2 * (76 + 89 + 10)] * 1.45] * 1.15 = 583.625
Death Penalty 99: [2 * (64 + 89 + 10)] * 1.21] * 1.6 = 631.136
Death Penalty 99 + Staff: [2 * (64 + 89 + 10)] * 1.21] * 1.15 * 1.6 = 725.8064
Death Penalty 99 + Staff + /RDM: [2 * (64 + 89 + 10)] * 1.45] * 1.15 * 1.6 = 869.768
tl:dr Death Penalty Quick Draw > Armageddon Quick Draw
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-05-08 11:31:29
Dear god Sylow change your Avatar. That ***is terrifying.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-08 11:33:43
Nicki Minaj just wants your soul.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-05-08 11:36:39
I didn't even realize that was a real woman.
And yes, I expect it would want my soul; ain't no one who looks like that isn't in some sort of arrangement with Satan.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-05-08 11:38:45
But back on topic; sounds like something I'm still interested in. Especially when you still figure in the pure badassness.
So I guess that means I should get ready to drop like a billion gil on Alex. Exciting.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-08 11:39:41
I didn't even realize that was a real woman.
And yes, I expect it would want my soul; ain't no one who looks like that isn't in some sort of arrangement with Satan.
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Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-08 11:41:19
But back on topic; sounds like something I'm still interested in. Especially when you still figure in the pure badassness.
So I guess that means I should get ready to drop like a billion gil on Alex. Exciting.
Do it, it's a mothereffing handheld cannon! If nothing else, think of the glory! The power! The booty! The ***!
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-05-08 11:42:48
I didn't even realize that was a real woman.
And yes, I expect it would want my soul; ain't no one who looks like that isn't in some sort of arrangement with Satan.
i personally can't stand the ***; mostly cause her rap/songs are horrible though.
edit- its her voice....everytime i hear her voice my body cringes -.-;
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Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-05-08 11:43:28
But back on topic; sounds like something I'm still interested in. Especially when you still figure in the pure badassness. So I guess that means I should get ready to drop like a billion gil on Alex. Exciting. Do it, it's a mothereffing handheld cannon! If nothing else, think of the glory! The power! The booty! The ***!
That's kinda what I meant.
Edit: Also, on Ms. Minaj. I've heard samples in passing. It makes me thoroughly disgusted by what record companies are willing to produce these days. Nickelback is great, by comparison. And I hate Nickelback.
And based on the one lyric of hers I know, I think it's safe to say she is what she sings.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-08 11:43:55
The *** are the real reason I want a Terpsichore, too.
By Artemicion 2012-05-08 11:44:44
I wonder how those trials that offer passive attack bonus for mythic weapons will measure up in the long run. Probably not as superior to Armageddon, but still nifty in QD utility and soloing I'd imagine.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-08 11:45:48
I wonder how those trials that offer passive attack bonus for mythic weapons will measure up in the long run. Probably not as superior to Armageddon, but still nifty in QD utility and soloing I'd imagine.
Is there really anything left to QD solo, though?
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Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-08 11:49:35
And based on the one lyric of hers I know, I think it's safe to say she is what she sings.
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nickiminaj/stupidhoe.html
Oh come on, some of these stings are genius:
"*** talkin she the queen, when she looking like a lab rat
I'm Angelina, you Jennifer
Come on ***, you see where Brad at"
"Hey yo, baby bop, *** you and your EP
Who's gassin' this hoe? BP?"
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-05-08 11:50:14
I didn't even realize that was a real woman.
. LOL
By Artemicion 2012-05-08 11:50:45
I wonder how those trials that offer passive attack bonus for mythic weapons will measure up in the long run. Probably not as superior to Armageddon, but still nifty in QD utility and soloing I'd imagine.
Is there really anything left to QD solo, though?
Probably not; I was trying to think of anything else that would be worthy of significant quick draw augments, but alas, soloing days are likely well over, and most Mythics have been overshadowed by the benefits of Relics or higher damage options of Empyrean.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-05-08 11:54:05
Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-08 11:55:21
I need to add "Derails due to avatars" to this.
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-05-08 12:11:22
Death Penalty should be superior in the circumstances where you would use Last Stand *and* you actually have a tp phase, like Legion for example, otherwise Armageddon just isn't a match due to the higher base damage and agi bonus; while if you need a magic ws, like explained above, Leaden has a very hard time obtaining the same results as Wildfire.
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-05-08 12:11:39
I find her particular brand of "entertainment" to be highly repulsive. That's just all there is to it.
"Death Penalty" could apply to both the thread and the derail here, as far as I'm concerned. <_<;
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Didn't find another thread about this weapon, so here we go~
Tested the lv 95 weapon to see what the QD enhancement IV does. Results show a 48% damage increase. There's probably also accuracy involved, but I'm not entirely sure how to test that.
In the future I'll try to test Leaden Salute and aftermath as well.
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