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 Asura.Originalkord
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By Asura.Originalkord 2011-12-22 21:25:27
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Eventually all jobs get nerfed...except SAM.

This one is particularly painful because it is being done under the guise of balance, when this is far removed from any sense of the word. You replaced a "broken" WAR with a "broken" SAM. Let's all gravitate towards THAT job and move on.

'Grats.
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By Odin.Almont 2011-12-22 21:48:58
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This is really quite sad imo. I really don't see any cause for the BR nerf, but I realize I'm late to the party anyway so whatever. WAR's been my favored job since I started and will continue to be. SE's been stupid with their "new content" additions for a long time now, I doubt that will change anytime soon.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-22 21:54:20
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Asura.Originalkord said: »
Eventually all jobs get nerfed...except SAM.

This one is particularly painful because it is being done under the guise of balance, when this is far removed from any sense of the word. You replaced a "broken" WAR with a "broken" SAM. Let's all gravitate towards THAT job and move on.

'Grats.

It's ok..... you are listed under that wars who won't notice the difference.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-22 22:03:58
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Ragnarok.Amador said: »
The Ninja nerf was painful, because a lot of Ninja's main tanked.
What.

It didnt hurt ninja what-so-ever. The amount of enmity per shadow lost is pitiful, enough that your swings will make up for. If anything it was for balance as anyone could sub nin and obtain that enmity free loss.

What hurt nin tanking, was DD pld-atonement and as you mentioned enfeeble enmity nerf, but by that time most had already adopted pld-atonement tanking over nin.
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By rocs42 2011-12-22 22:25:36
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Asura.Originalkord said: »
Eventually all jobs get nerfed...except SAM.

This one is particularly painful because it is being done under the guise of balance, when this is far removed from any sense of the word. You replaced a "broken" WAR with a "broken" SAM. Let's all gravitate towards THAT job and move on.

'Grats.

It's ok..... you are listed under that wars who won't notice the difference.

So predictable coming from you...at least know what you're talking about when you attempt to troll.

Go back in to your closet, under your bridge, please.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-22 22:27:12
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rocs42 said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Asura.Originalkord said: »
Eventually all jobs get nerfed...except SAM.

This one is particularly painful because it is being done under the guise of balance, when this is far removed from any sense of the word. You replaced a "broken" WAR with a "broken" SAM. Let's all gravitate towards THAT job and move on.

'Grats.

It's ok..... you are listed under that wars who won't notice the difference.

I can go in so many different directions when it comes to you. Your byrnie makes me jealous.

Hood until that 35 piece drops it's what I got. 0/89 ftw. Oh btw I never figured out why you didn't like me ; ; . I apparently found out one day when talking to a friend. I didn't even know you until that day lol
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By rocs42 2011-12-22 22:29:27
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
rocs42 said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Asura.Originalkord said: »
Eventually all jobs get nerfed...except SAM.

This one is particularly painful because it is being done under the guise of balance, when this is far removed from any sense of the word. You replaced a "broken" WAR with a "broken" SAM. Let's all gravitate towards THAT job and move on.

'Grats.

It's ok..... you are listed under that wars who won't notice the difference.

I can go in so many different directions when it comes to you. Your byrnie makes me jealous.

Hood until that 35 piece drops it's what I got. 0/89 ftw. Oh btw I never figured out why you didn't like me ; ; . I apparently found out one day when talking to a friend. I didn't even know you until that day lol

It's easy. Your shouts are incessant, you attempt to troll gear in tells...You don't have to know me for me not to like you.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-12-22 22:29:56
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Please stop posting.
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By treasurehunterx 2011-12-22 23:14:58
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I wonder if Tanaka reads the brady guide every night
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By Titan.Bomber 2011-12-23 00:02:43
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BALANCE!!
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2011-12-23 00:31:41
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Let the raping of my WAR began,lol!! Tana, I hope you get a lump of coal for Xmas... Jerk!!
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-12-23 01:13:33
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treasurehunterx said: »
I wonder if Tanaka reads the brady guide every night

Tanaka may have written the Brady Guide.

I distinctly remember it saying that WAR is better-suited as a subjob than a main job.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2011-12-23 01:15:11
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He sucks straight up!!
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2011-12-23 01:18:02
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Asura.Originalkord said: »
Eventually all jobs get nerfed...except SAM.

Ironically, you're wrong.
SAM was the first job to get hella nerfed ... long, long ago.

Back then, multi-hit WS got full TP return on all hits. SAMs would use Penta Thrust, and essentially have 1-2 melee TP swings before another Penta Thrust.

Granted, the WS TP return nerf affected all classes, but it was the original Polearm SAM that made that nerf necessary to "restore balance".
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-12-23 01:21:38
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Actually I'm pretty sure MNK with Relic Knuckles was the reason. Though the first large job specific nerf was definitely RNG.
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By Titan.Bomber 2011-12-23 01:26:04
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Wasn't double weak
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: »
Actually I'm pretty sure MNK with Relic Knuckles was the reason. Though the first large job specific nerf was definitely RNG.
Wasnt double weak for BLMs the first nerfing to happen?
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-12-23 01:28:23
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Now that's just wrong.

Titan.Bomber said: »
Wasnt double weak for BLMs the first nerfing to happen?

It might have been, I thought it was the other way around, but I am a little hazy on dates.
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By Fenrir.Kendraian 2011-12-23 01:38:20
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I am the only person in FFXI that actually loves this nerfage XD
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By Asura.Patriclis 2011-12-23 01:42:29
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mfw all the bandwagon WARs who leveled the job just to use the Ukon start QQing.
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By Asura.Dajociont 2011-12-23 01:48:27
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so, you have no face?
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By Ragnarok.Xenophire 2011-12-23 01:50:02
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Asura.Dajociont said: »
so, you have no face?
We can't be that lucky.
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By Bahamut.Novadragon 2011-12-23 04:12:32
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Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
I am the only person in FFXI that actually loves this nerfage XD

Make that 2. Ukon/Vereg are too strong >.>
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By Odin.Eikechi 2011-12-23 04:23:21
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Well I think my war is gonna get retired the minute I hit 99, just to say its 99.... lol
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-12-23 04:26:22
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Fenrir.Kendraian said: »
I am the only person in FFXI that actually loves this nerfage XD
Ofcourse, you have pld,non-apoc drk,nin,drg leveled, youve never tasted OP to know how a nerf feels :P
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By Fenrir.Moldtech 2011-12-23 04:27:11
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Not gonna lie, I do believe I do not even care of the nerf, life goes on.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2011-12-23 04:30:07
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It's a sad and pathetic mindset to want to see something that performs well be brought down because others are unable/unwilling to put forth the work or too ignorant to understand the reasoning behind why xyz performs well.

I'd rather see those that performed less well bought to a similar level, but then again this philosophy carries over into life itself and we all know the former is much more common.
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By Bahamut.Atoreis 2011-12-23 05:59:31
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100TP 30%->15% *** you Tanaka
300TP is less than 40% I have no words.. From 80% to less tan 40%...
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By Bahamut.Danthebk 2011-12-23 07:33:20
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80% was overkill, but the 30% at 100 TP was acceptable in my opinion. Ukko's is now just a two hit Raging Rush. Which, by the way, is still better than the other DDs in the game because the problem isn't that WAR|MNK are overpowered, the other jobs just suck and SE has no clue how to "balance" their own game.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-12-23 08:04:05
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We are WARs, not DRKs. Stop QQing! These tears? Oh, something got in my eye Q_Q
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By Carbuncle.Xenhas 2011-12-23 08:19:46
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Asura.Patriclis said: »
mfw all the bandwagon WARs who leveled the job just to use the Ukon start QQing.

you know, mfw only works if you have a picture of a face to reference.

jussstt sayyyiin'
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