How Do I Properly Buff Against Paralyze?

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How do I properly buff against Paralyze?
 Asura.Tyrath
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By Asura.Tyrath 2019-10-15 13:41:40
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Paralyze is Ice based, so do I cast Barblizzara and Barparalyzra? or do I Barthundra and Barparalyzra? I am currently confused by this. If someone could explain it, I would appreciate it.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2019-10-15 13:43:29
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The former. Barblizzara and barpara.
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By Asura.Nebohh 2019-10-15 15:24:18
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By Odin.Drakenv 2019-10-15 15:25:04
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Asura.Nebohh said: »
Lol
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By Asura.Meliorah 2019-10-15 15:28:43
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Could you share what your thoughts were that thunder resistance means you resist ice magic more? I'm very interested in what you were thinking.
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By Bahamut.Eternallight 2019-10-15 15:30:09
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I think thunder is strong vs ice in the elemental wheel?

Kinda like the rune fencer runes, i think?
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2019-10-15 15:40:40
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There was some speculation and evidence to suggest that Stun was a type of Petrification warranting the use of Bar-Petra in Stun resist scenarios and some speculate that Terror itself is Earth and not Thunder based. But that was the only case I knew of where things could get weird.

Afaik, the only counter to Ice-Effects is Fire. So Bar-Fire all the way?
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By Siren.Kyte 2019-10-15 15:43:23
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Bahamut.Eternallight said: »
I think thunder is strong vs ice in the elemental wheel?

Kinda like the rune fencer runes, i think?

it's not
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2019-10-15 15:43:52
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Bahamut.Eternallight said: »
I think thunder is strong vs ice in the elemental wheel?

Kinda like the rune fencer runes, i think?
Thunder and ice have no direct elemental relationship at all.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Elements
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By Siren.Kyte 2019-10-15 15:45:48
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Valefor.Yandaime said: »
There was some speculation and evidence to suggest that Stun was a type of Petrification warranting the use of Bar-Petra in Stun resist scenarios and some speculate that Terror itself is Earth and not Thunder based. But that was the only case I knew of where things could get weird.

Afaik, the only counter to Ice-Effects is Fire. So Bar-Fire all the way?

nearly everything you just said is wrong
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By Asura.Tyrath 2019-10-15 16:11:43
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My reason for questioning Barblizzara at all, was because I watched a twitch stream of a more experienced WHM (I wont say who, thats not important) in Reisenjima. They were using Barthundara and Barparalyzra together. I found this odd, I am sure they had a reason.


So for the record these are best used together?

Barblizzara (Fire) and Barparalyzra (Fire)

Barfira (Water) and Baramnesra (Water)

Barwatera (Thunder) and Barpoisonra (Thunder)

Barstonra (Wind) and Barpetra (Wind)

Barfira (Water) and Barvira (Water)
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By Asura.Nuance 2019-10-15 16:13:13
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I mean some enemies use abilities that have multiple elements attached to them like ecliptic meteor is darkness and inflicts various ***including paralyze. I’m unaware of a thunder ability that does the same though. Khimaira? Idk.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2019-10-15 16:16:36
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Asura.Tyrath said: »
My reason for questioning Barblizzara at all, was because I watched a twitch stream of a more experienced WHM (I wont say who, thats not important) in Reisenjima. They were using Barthundara and Barparalyzra together. I found this odd, I am sure they had a reason.


So for the record these are best used together?

Barblizzara (Fire) and Barparalyzra (Fire)

Barfira (Water) and Baramnesra (Water)

Barwatera (Thunder) and Barpoisonra (Thunder)

Barstonra (Wind) and Barpetra (Wind)

Barfira (Water) and Barvira (Water)
Generally you'll stack them up like that. But take stun for example. There is no barstunra. So if you were trying to resist stun, you'd cast barthunder and then... pick a bar status spell for another status effect the monster also uses since there's no matching barstatus spell for stun.

This would be the most likely reason to cast barthunder and barpara.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-10-15 16:16:52
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https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Khimaira
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Fulmination deals massive AoE Thunder damage (600-1100) and a strong Paralyze effect.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Khimaira
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Fulmination AoE Question Deals physical damage + Stun + Paralysis.
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By Asura.Tyrath 2019-10-15 16:19:40
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Thank you, this helped a lot.
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By Asura.Nuance 2019-10-15 16:29:10
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Khimaira
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Fulmination deals massive AoE Thunder damage (600-1100) and a strong Paralyze effect.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Khimaira
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Fulmination AoE Question Deals physical damage + Stun + Paralysis.


Oh duh.
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By Asura.Elizabet 2019-10-15 16:58:24
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Khimaira
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Fulmination deals massive AoE Thunder damage (600-1100) and a strong Paralyze effect.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Khimaira
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Fulmination AoE Question Deals physical damage + Stun + Paralysis.

So uh... which is correct? Or are the Caedarva Mire and Nyzul Isle Investigation Floor 100 ones that do thunder dmg?
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2019-10-15 17:09:22
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Siren.Kyte said: »
Valefor.Yandaime said: »
There was some speculation and evidence to suggest that Stun was a type of Petrification warranting the use of Bar-Petra in Stun resist scenarios and some speculate that Terror itself is Earth and not Thunder based. But that was the only case I knew of where things could get weird.

Afaik, the only counter to Ice-Effects is Fire. So Bar-Fire all the way?

nearly everything you just said is wrong

False. Actually Kyte you yourself were a part of that discussion if I recall along with Martel. I’ll try to dig up the page where it was discussed.

All that was talked about was that Stun resistance seemed to respond positively to “Resist Petrify spells, traits and gear(?)” Seeing as how a Bar-Stun spell doesn’t exist anyway, what’s the harm in throwing Bar Petra in there when the biggest concern of whatever fight is Stun?
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By Asura.Aquatiq 2019-10-15 17:20:14
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Make sure your body matches what your eyes can do.
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By Felgarr 2019-10-15 17:42:30
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I remember this being asked during one of the Rune Fencer AF quests:

https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Legacies_Lost_and_Found


So if Ignis increases resistance against Ice and deals fire damage, so I think the answer to your question is "Barblizzara" and "Barparalyzra" (and of course, Ignis, and froms songs, you can cast Ice Carol 1 which takes priority over Ice Carol II, if you can't cast both songs).

(It is worth to note, I don't think anyone can accurately test the potency of the bar-status effect spells, like Barparalyze, but I try to be optimistic and assume that it's not terrible).

As a result, when a fight has a specific status effect that I wan't to avoid, I use the above rational.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2019-10-15 18:08:43
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Barblizzardra, barparalyzra, ice carol, ignis.

Also high meva gear.