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By Wotasu 2019-04-22 08:54:50
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I see the question asked a lot on game and in the forums, and sadly the guide isnt updated anymore.
So I made some itemsets to guide new players, so they dont have to scroll through 125 pages.

I might have missed some things.
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Food of choice:
all but Stewpot and Repast can be found @ Curio Moogle.

Pet Acc: Shiromochi https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Shiromochi
Pet Acc/Atk Akamochi https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Akamochi
Pet Atk: Kusamochi https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Kusamochi
Pet Mab: Grape Daifuku https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Grape_Daifuku
Pet Macc: Marine Stewpot https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Marine_Stewpot
All Attributes Acc Att R.Acc R.Att M.Acc MAB MDB Eva DEF MEva STP Pet: Same effect.
Altana's Repast
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Altana%27s_Repast
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BP delay I and II both cap at -15 each for a total -30 the other 8-9 seconds are from Avatar's Favor.

Precast BP

Precast BP Novice

ItemSet 366305
Cape: BP Delay II - 1~3
Dont need every gear just enough to reach BP delay I -15

Precast BP Medium
ItemSet 366307 ItemSet 366341
This set is BP Delay I -15 & BP Delay II -15
Cape: BP Delay II - 3 + Smn Skill

Precast BP Advanced
This set grants 22sec recast as Master Smn
ItemSet 366308
Cape: BP Delay II -3 +5 Smn Skill

Precast BP Elit
This set is 676 Smn Skill at Master SMN and grants lowest recast possible at 21sec.
ItemSet 366325
Cape: BP Delay II -3 +5 Smn Skill

Budget 671 Smn skill at Master Smn for 21s BP recast
ItemSet 366354
Staff path: B
Cape: BP Delay II -3 +5 Smn Skill


There's a favor tier at 670 skill that's hard to hit. You do need all that +1 gear if you want to hit the 670 tier (21s) with Nirvana/Grip locked for AM3. If you don't have weapon locked and can swap Espiritus/Vox Grip for 18 more summoning skill, then you can actually get away with much less +1 gear, but you do still need at least one +1 piece.

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Merit/Magic BP

Merit BP Novice
ItemSet 366309
Staff path: A
Apogee path: A
Hands: BP+7~10 & Pet: Magic Attack Bonus
Cape: Pet: Macc/Mdmg
Neck options https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Deino_Collar

Merit BP Medium
ItemSet 366310
Staff path: A
Apogee path: A
Gloves BP+7~10 & pet: Magic attack bonus
Cape: Pet: Macc/Mdmg

Merit BP Advanced

Summoner's Collar +2 is BiS and the +1 is 2nd best over Omen necks.
ItemSet 366311
Staff BP+8-10 Pet: Magic attack bonus +20~25
Apogee path: A
Cape: Pet: Macc/Mdmg

Convoker's Doublet +3 offers high Macc and BP+ so it's advised on high tier NM's.
Enticers TP Bonus are good for Merit BloodPacts,
But Apogeee Slacks path: A should outdamage Enticers if Avatar TP is +1500~ and merits are 5/5.

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Physical BP

Physical BP Novice
ItemSet 366312
Apogee path: B
Gloves: BP +7-10 Acc or Atk
Cape: Pet Acc/Atk

Physical BP Medium
ItemSet 366313 ItemSet 366334
Apogee path: D
Merlinic BP+8-10 Pet: Atk or Acc
Helios: Pet Acc25~30 BP+4~7
DblAtk+4~8
Cape: Pet Acc/Atk

Physical BP Advanced
Summoner's Collar +2 is BiS and the +1 is 2nd best over Omen necks.
ItemSet 366314 ItemSet 366330 ItemSet 366331 ItemSet 366342
Crown path: B or Helios Band: BP+7 Pet: Acc or Atk 25~30 DblAtk +8.
Slacks path: D
Hands: BP+9~10 & Pet: Acc or Atk, Can use AF+3 Hands.
Feet: BP+7 Pet: Acc or Atk 25~30 DblAtk +8 | Can use Apogee Pumps +1 path :B or AF+3 Feet.
Cape: Pet Acc/Atk+Atk

Phys BP High Acc
ItemSet 366418
Cape: Pet Acc/Atk+Atk

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Hybrid BP/Flaming Crush

BP Hybrid(Flaming Crush) Novice
ItemSet 366320
Staff path: A
Apogee path: A
Hands: BP+8~10 Pet: Magic Attack Bonus
Cape: Pet: Acc/Atk

BP Hybrid(Flaming Crush) Medium
ItemSet 366321
Staff: BP+8-10 Pet: Magic Attack Bonus
Apogee path: A
Gloves: BP+7~10 & pet: Magic attack bonus
Cape: Acc/Atk

BP Hybrid(Flaming Crush) Advanced
Summoner's Collar +2 is BiS but the +1 is 2nd best over Omen necks.
ItemSet 366319
Apogee path: A
Hands: BP+9~10 Pet: Magic Attack Bonus & Int
Cape: Pet: Acc/Atk+Atk
(I use Apogee Slacks path: D because inventory issues.)

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BP Ward Duration

For 1, 2, and 3 minute duration BPWards, every 1 Skill over 300 grants an additional second of duration.

BP Ward Duration Novice
ItemSet 366322
Staff path: B
Cape: Smn skill +3~5

BP Ward Medium
ItemSet 366323
Staff path: B
Cape: Smn skill +3~5

BP Ward Advanced
ItemSet 366511
Staff path: B
Cape: Smn skill +3~5

BP Ward Elit
ItemSet 366324
Staff path: B
Cape: Smn skill +3~5

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Idle/-Prep/Refresh

Moonshade Earring can be augmented with +1 refresh

Idle -Prep/Refresh Novice
ItemSet 366315

Idle -Prep/Refresh Medium
ItemSet 366316

Idle -Prep/Refresh Advanced
ItemSet 366317
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Elemental Siphon

Budget Set

ItemSet 366546

ItemSet 366336
Staff +25 Elemental Siphon
Telchine augmneted with Elemental Siphon +~35

ItemSet 366337
With changes to how skill interact with Elemental Sipon a max skillset will works almost as good as maxed augmented Telchine.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Elemental_Siphon

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Summoner's Collar +2 is BiS and the +1 is 2nd best over Omen necks.
Asura.Pergatory said: »

Autocast said: »
At what rank does +2 neck surpass other neck options? (physical and magical)
Physical without Nirvana AM3: Around rank 18
Physical with Nirvana AM3: Around rank 12
Magic: Around rank 12
Flaming Crush: Probably even earlier, maybe rank 10 or even lower

And For Grioavolr:
Asura.Frod said: »
to beat a espiritus you need over...
5 bpd and 30 mab
6 bpd and 27.5 mab
7 bpd and 25 mab
8 bpd and 22.5 mab
9 bpd and 20 mab
10 bpd and 17.5 mab

aug on grio.
Exampel of an ingame macro using equipsets:
/equipset 1 (precast BP)
/pet "Volt Strike" <stnpc> <wait 1>
/equipset 2 (BP Phys) <wait 2~4>
/equipset 3 (Smn idle)

Pergatory's Smn Lua & BP calculator
https://pastebin.com/u/pergatory

Other sources:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/User:Prismfang/Sandbox
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/The_Heretical_Art:_Comprehensive_Summoner_Guide
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/46440/the-6th-ministrys-secret-a-summoners-guide-v2/ is full of information and deeper understanding of Summoner.

Thank you~
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By eliroo 2019-04-22 09:00:21
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I like the idea of this thread. I had to go through peoples luas to figure out what gear people were using. That being said:

You should list an AM3 set for multi hit bloodpacts where you favor more BP damage and last multihit.

According to a post from pergatory I read, Apogee +1 beats out Enticers at around 1500 total TP (Including merit bonus and avatar current TP)
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By Wotasu 2019-04-22 09:05:06
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eliroo said: »
You should list an AM3 set for multi hit bloodpacts where you favor more BP damage and last multihit.

The Advanced set I posted is more or less what I use when AM3 is up, it could be tweaked I dont doubt.
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By soralin 2019-04-22 11:49:30
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For the Advanced BP Recast set, how low does that get your BP Recast? Is 5/5 Baayami+1 actually necessary? Surely a Master'd summoner doesn't need ALL of that summoning skill, or does it actually bump us up another Favor tier?

Same question for the ward set: Does all that summoning skill actually matter for our Wards, does all that skill edge us up into another tier?
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By Wotasu 2019-04-22 12:28:34
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soralin said: »
For the Advanced BP Recast set, how low does that get your BP Recast? Is 5/5 Baayami+1 actually necessary? Surely a Master'd summoner doesn't need ALL of that summoning skill, or does it actually bump us up another Favor tier?

Same question for the ward set: Does all that summoning skill actually matter for our Wards, does all that skill edge us up into another tier?

Q1: 21 sec I think with maxed out smn skill, so you get 1sec more or less which is well, up to ppl who want that.

Q2: Skill add duration. Maybe potency for Enspells from what I can see on bgwiki.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2019-04-22 12:35:47
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Cool thread, the sets look pretty good at first glance.

More specific answer to Q1: There's a favor tier at 670 skill that's hard to hit. You do need all that +1 gear if you want to hit the 670 tier (21s) with Nirvana/Grip locked for AM3. If you don't have weapon locked and can swap Espiritus/Vox Grip for 18 more summoning skill, then you can actually get away with much less +1 gear, but you do still need at least one +1 piece.

And Q2: There are no tiers for ward duration, every point of skill matters. With the set posted, Hastega II will last about 9:45.

Edit: Some of the advanced sets could probably use Kobo Obi instead of Lucidity Sash.
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By Wotasu 2019-04-22 12:41:27
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Asura.Pergatory said: »

Edit: Some of the advanced sets could probably use Kobo Obi instead of Lucidity Sash.

I'll change those to Kobo Obi, ty.
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By soralin 2019-04-22 14:36:08
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Wotasu said: »
Q1: 21 sec I think with maxed out smn skill, so you get 1sec more or less which is well up to ppl who want that.

Q2: Skill add duration. Maybe potency for Enspells from what I can see on bgwiki.

Oh I just mathed it out and see what you mean, that is pretty hard to hit 670 skill even as a mastered Smn with nirvana. You literally need to pull out ALL of the stops to hit the 21s delay, thats crazy!

Thanks for sharing!
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By Jdove 2019-04-22 16:32:49
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with nirvana it would be even harder to hit 670 because there isnt any smn magic on nirvana
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By soralin 2019-04-22 16:46:33
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Thats exactly what I said.

Hitting 670 skill with nirvana is difficult even if you are Mastered.
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By Asura.Frod 2019-04-22 17:52:26
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idle/perp is missing pieces
ItemSet 346317
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By Asura.Frod 2019-04-22 17:58:48
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soralin said: »
Thats exactly what I said.

Hitting 670 skill with nirvana is difficult even if you are Mastered.

the set isn't really for saving tp while precasting for 21s, it's more for a perp neutral (or even slight refresh)670 idle for max favor, which basically needs nirvana in main slot to do.
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By Wotasu 2019-04-23 01:42:26
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Asura.Frod said: »
idle/perp is missing pieces
ItemSet 346317

Ah yes you're correct, I had prep -17 while it only needs -15, I edited it. I guess your merlinic's are DM augmented with refresh+2?
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By Asura.Frod 2019-04-23 06:58:29
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Wotasu said: »
Asura.Frod said: »
idle/perp is missing pieces
ItemSet 346317

Ah yes you're correct, I had prep -17 while it only needs -15, I edited it. I guess your merlinic's are DM augmented with refresh+2?
yep, avoids the latent nonsense on the hands.

Technically you could go further with a poisontaster's cape, but nobody goes that far.
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By Asura.Ajirha 2019-04-23 08:14:47
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Asura.Frod said: »
soralin said: »
Thats exactly what I said.

Hitting 670 skill with nirvana is difficult even if you are Mastered.

the set isn't really for saving tp while precasting for 21s, it's more for a perp neutral (or even slight refresh)670 idle for max favor, which basically needs nirvana in main slot to do.

I'm confused, what's the point of having 670 skill if you lose the benefit of the head piece for favor? i thought the boost it provide counted for the bp recast. was i misstaken?
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By Shiva.Xelltrix 2019-04-23 08:29:17
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1) Yeah, unless I missed something, you want Beckoner’s Horn in your set and then to ht 670 skill.

2) You actually only need -14 Perp since Auto Refresh I is always subtracted before your perp gear.
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By Wotasu 2019-04-23 08:33:58
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Asura.Ajirha said: »
Asura.Frod said: »
soralin said: »
Thats exactly what I said.

Hitting 670 skill with nirvana is difficult even if you are Mastered.

the set isn't really for saving tp while precasting for 21s, it's more for a perp neutral (or even slight refresh)670 idle for max favor, which basically needs nirvana in main slot to do.

I'm confused, what's the point of having 670 skill if you lose the benefit of the head piece for favor? i thought the boost it provide counted for the bp recast. was i misstaken?

All the precast sets has Beckoners horn+1 in them.

ItemSet 366325
This set if my math is correct lands on 676 skill @ Master.

469 Base Skill Merits & Master
Baayami+1 x4 37+33+35+29 = 134
Beck.Horn+1 13
Neck/Rings/Waist/Cape/Strap/Earrings - 10+8+10+8+13+3+5+3 = 60
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By Odin.Nehalania 2019-04-23 09:21:55
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No one on my server really makes Baayami +1 gear. So if I'm reading this right I could still get 21 seconds with Espiritus / Vox Grip if I use just one +1 Baayami piece (like feet, I have those) and an HQ Stikini Ring with the rest of the set looking the same (accessory wise and having NQ baayami pieces instead of HQ)?
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By eliroo 2019-04-23 09:27:27
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Wotasu said: »
Asura.Ajirha said: »
Asura.Frod said: »
soralin said: »
Thats exactly what I said.

Hitting 670 skill with nirvana is difficult even if you are Mastered.

the set isn't really for saving tp while precasting for 21s, it's more for a perp neutral (or even slight refresh)670 idle for max favor, which basically needs nirvana in main slot to do.

I'm confused, what's the point of having 670 skill if you lose the benefit of the head piece for favor? i thought the boost it provide counted for the bp recast. was i misstaken?

All the precast sets has Beckoners horn+1 in them.

ItemSet 366325
This set if my math is correct lands on 676 skill @ Master.

469 Base Skill Merits & Master
Baayami+1 x4 37+33+35+29 = 134
Beck.Horn+1 13
Neck/Rings/Waist/Cape/Strap/Earrings - 10+8+10+8+13+3+5+3 = 60

That set isn't Mana neutral is it?
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By Wotasu 2019-04-23 09:54:56
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What do you mean with mana neutral?
I dont own any +1's for Baayami so I cant answer anyway :x
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By Chimerawizard 2019-04-23 10:24:02
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eliroo said: »
Wotasu said: »

That set isn't Mana neutral is it?
0=0+0+0+0
164=134+0+30+0
203=123+55+0+25
242=100+20+73+49
609MP

ItemSet 366317
0=0+0+0+0
173=98+0+50+25
234=165+44+0+25
108=0+30+29+49
515MP

I think it's MP neutral, if that's what you're referring to.
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By eliroo 2019-04-23 10:39:42
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Sorry I was referring to Perpetuation cost w/ Favor up in that set.

9 Perp
8 Refresh
I think you lose 1 MP / Tick with a normal avatar out in this set?
But I'm tired and haven't had enough coffee yet.
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By Wotasu 2019-04-23 11:02:53
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eliroo said: »
Sorry I was referring to Perpetuation cost w/ Favor up in that set.

9 Perp
8 Refresh
I think you lose 1 MP / Tick with a normal avatar out in this set?
But I'm tired and haven't had enough coffee yet.

Well you dont idle in precast gear, so the refresh part is kinda moot, it should be on for like 1 sec at most.
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By Asura.Pergatory 2019-04-23 11:11:58
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I mean the set is only equipped for a fraction of a second, anyway. I don't know what Frod was smoking when he said the main purpose of the set was for avatar's favor when idling. I have the full set, and even when I want a strong favor effect I don't use it. I got it so I could hit 21s with Nirvana/grip locked and extend my ward durations.

I've posted my actual favor set elsewhere and it only hits the 575 tier because otherwise you're just bleeding MP constantly.
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By eliroo 2019-04-23 11:19:40
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Oh okay, yeah I thought it was a super favor set for idling and that is why I was confused.
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By Asura.Frod 2019-04-23 11:58:40
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Asura.Pergatory said: »
I mean the set is only equipped for a fraction of a second, anyway. I don't know what Frod was smoking when he said the main purpose of the set was for avatar's favor when idling. I have the full set, and even when I want a strong favor effect I don't use it. I got it so I could hit 21s with Nirvana/grip locked and extend my ward durations.

I've posted my actual favor set elsewhere and it only hits the 575 tier because otherwise you're just bleeding MP constantly.

There are situations where you'd want to sit in a 670 set while keeping up perp/refresh. It's notably hard to hit that -15 while keeping 670, specifically requiring nirvana to do.
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By soralin 2019-04-23 15:34:49
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Im presuming for acting in the support role using either Ifrit or Shiva, yes?

I often idle with Shiva in Omen farming parties to give Matt to the nukers trying to hit those "do x dmg without magic bursting" and etc, or idle with ifrit out for people trying to spam skillchains.

Stuff like that right?
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By Asura.Frod 2019-04-23 18:30:39
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Ifrit, ramuh or shiva, yes. Favor is pretty ***' potent.
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By Quickness 2019-04-27 16:47:07
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Can't figure out if I should keep my keep my AF+3 Feet for BP or Apogee Pumps +1 path :B which one you guys think would be better?
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By Asura.Frod 2019-04-27 19:57:50
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Quickness said: »
Can't figure out if I should keep my keep my AF+3 Feet for BP or Apogee Pumps +1 path :B which one you guys think would be better?
af+3 feet are best for situations you need the acc, possibly dynamis t3 and master trials, stuff like that.
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