JUST Upgrade Afterglows If 90s 95s Arent Included

How is this circus of butthurt still going? Lol

Sure, it would be great if all of us could jump in "several" 45 minute plasm farms a day. That's only what, 8-12 hours of game play per day? ...

... So no, most of us cant knock out an 85 Empy in 2 days because we can't play 24-36 hours straight.

Additionally, I don't understand why so many of the more hardcore players would be bothered by lower tier weapons getting a boost. How does this hurt you? What does it cost you?

In response to the spoiler, the info is pretty easy to find.
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/development/census/11/4.html

Nothing surprising here to me. The large majority of Relics topped out at 95 and the majority of Empy's topped out at 90. I'm sure there will be an uptick in the number of 99's in the upcoming census but i doubt it will be very significant.

Your argument is hurt by these sorts of exaggerations. More than 1hr of play time does not suddenly jump to a 8-12 hour marathon.

If you only have 2 hours to play:
Log in
Start your own delve shout for 2 consecutive runs.
Shout for 20 mins
1st run 45 mins
10 mins between runs (maybe)
2nd run 45 mins
=2 hours

Have less time/shout took too long? Just one run tonight. Bonus time? "Hey guys, wanna stay on for a 3rd run?" Pizza night with the fam? Take a night off! Delve will be here when you get back.

In conclusion: One hundo a day... Five hundo a week? That's rich!


Because I've asked the question "what would a player do differently with a boosted lv90 weapon?" And the general response I get is: nothing. Just keep using the lv90 weapon while talking about upgrading to 99 someday.

In the meantime, I have to deal with your weapon in my group because you still think "close enough". So that's the problem. Players don't seem to want to make a weapon now (either 99 r/e/m OR delve and rank it up), and if you're not somehow motivated to focus on doing that now you are only going to feel more justified in not improving your weapon after receiving a boost.

... then make a Skirmish or Delve weapon?

Sure, it "invalidates" your old emp, but the time investment in those weapons isn't large. It doesn't matter if it took you years to build it by playing 10 minutes at a time once a week, the cumulative investment is pretty minimal (unless you're terrible).

This particular post fascinate me a bit. I think it highlights the fundamental difference in play styles in this game. Sure, it would be great if all of us could jump in "several" 45 minute plasm farms a day. That's only what, 8-12 hours of game play per day? But the reality is, the majority of the player base can't commit that sort of time, so yeah, things take longer for us. So no, most of us cant knock out an 85 Empy in 2 days because we can't play 24-36 hours straight. This does not mean we are lazy which you went on to state in your follow-on post. It just means we have different priorities. It also doesn't mean we don't have the right to be upset when the work we have done is invalidated like those who took their weapons to 99. In fact, I would think based on the sheer numbers, SE should be significantly more worried about upsetting the more casual but dedicated group of players since we actually make up the majority of the playerbase.

Additionally, I don't understand why so many of the more hardcore players would be bothered by lower tier weapons getting a boost. How does this hurt you? What does it cost you? It would likely end up creating, or even sustaining additional gil streams for you and would help keep the older content viable? I truly don't understand your objections. I can assure you I never posted in the forums when everyone was screaming about their 99's being garbage saying thing like, STFU and deal with it. As far as I'm concerned, the boost was warranted and the upgrades cause me no harm. I see no difference with the lower tiers. It would be easy to implement a tiered upgrade system for the REM's where the damage increases scaled with the level of the weapon and even a lazy POS like me would be willing to put in additional effort to get them there.

And btw, I find it amusing how so many people on the forums question other players "work ethic" in the game. I've seen the word "lazy" thrown around in dozens of posts. It's a game, by definition, I'm slacking off when I play. When I start getting paid to play then I'll show you what kind of work ethic I actually have. Or would have anyhow. I canceled all my accounts in protest so it really doesn't make a difference one way or another at this point.

How is this an exaggeration? The poster said several plasm farms a day. By your own math that's a minimum of 8 hours. Likely more hunting for bards/cors. I didn't say someone like myself couldn't make progress, just nothing close to what some of the higher tier players can do due to time restrictions. Does this mean we don't deserve consideration for the work we have done? Is the person that puts 40-60 hours a week any more valuable to SE. I can't imagine they are. We pay the same subscription fee. Hell, I've maintained 3 accounts for over 7 years now but I don't have a right to be upset. I would claim the entire Adoulin update was aimed at people exactly like me. In a single update, SE put the part timers on effectively the same level as the hardcore player base. I'm surprised that these players arent more upset than they are. The 99 rem upgrades will mean very little in the end since eventually I'll be able to buy one off the ah that is on par. Add the ws with part time woe and bam, your 99 rem isn't that special anymore.

I'm a prime example of 8hr+ elitist turned 1-2hr max casual. This idea and the pursuant whining is everything I would expect from entitled lazy noobish players.

I'll 99 my ***on my own time and be happy with it being worth something. Quit trying to drag this game into abyssea easy mode.

The first part of this post which addresses mine, is rather asinine. "Several" has been taken out of context. At most, I typically only do 2-3 fracture runs a day, simply because I also happen to despise incessant grinding, but it still gives me 2-3 hours a day to make enough gil for progression. An hour here, or there, can still net some incredible rewards - even in small bursts. So Yes, my implication that people who whine and *** about stuff they want, and refuse to work for, still stands.

Done. Was "fun", Took a week playing my 10 minutes a day. Nice assumption on what it means to be part time btw. Maybe a better guess would have been a couple hours a day a few times a week between work and bed and maybe 4-5 hours on the weekend when I can squeeze it in.

HURR DURRRR MY 85 MASAMUNE IS STILL GOING TO BE ***SO NOBODY SHOULD GET ANYTHING

RELICS ARE SO EASY TO GET (but I probably don't have any)

IF I CAN'T DO IT THEN YOU CAN'T DO IT

MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS BROKEN; WHAT DO I DO!?!?!!?!??!!?!?!?!??

Guys, I'm good at this game. No, really. I am. Please?

I'm subpar because I have a life.

Uther's Grip

You put 1000 on each trial?

Seriously? Can you walk me through that reasoning please?

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My reaction:

ok so how where you procing with BST lol "3 days solo on BST" I don't believe that 1 pop at a time that would take a 150 hour benge in abyssea


LOL "off and on for 3 days" what was it 10 minutes in jeuno 71 hours and 50 minutes in tahrongi?

oh and lets see you stay in dynamis for 72 hours ...... you act like dynamis is harder lol ... everyone would have 15 relics if you could benge farm currency....

but sorry bud it just don't line up either you had a lot of help or your out right lying

Wow, drive by insults. Nice debate style. You pick that up in what? 3rd grade. It's definitely a classic.

As for your "Abyssea easy mode" This new update makes aby look down right challenging. In less than 2 weeks, I had a weapon that completely eclipsed a 99 REM and had most of the KI's I needed to get any of the other weapons all while playing a couple hours a day. The truly fantastic weapons are going to be AH purchasable and the gear was pretty much a joke to obtain. Cant get much easier than that.

Oh, and I see the lazy reference once again. Kind of curious what your definition of lazy is? Seems like all the 99 REM owners that whined and bitched until SE caved and gave them what they wanted could fit into this category. They seem to be getting something for nothing.

You have the weapon now plus the option to upgrade your Empyrean is still there should you choose to do so. What exactly is the problem then?

It was hyperbole.

You have the weapon now plus the option to upgrade your Empyrean is still there should you choose to do so. What exactly is the problem then?

Lazy is not participating in the content and expecting your unfinished product to be boosted. People have finished the content, and got ***on. There is a big difference between 85/90 weapons and 99s.

You put 1000 on each trial?

Seriously? Can you walk me through that reasoning please?

Hrmm... if only I had something at 99.... like maybe a relic. Then I could be special? Done. Now if only I had all my weapons at 99. Yeah, not happening, would have been nice if they were maybe just a little useful though. WS's sure were pretty.

Then by your own words, everyone that bitched and whined about the REM's when the update came out fall into this category? Or does this only apply to those that don't have 99's?