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 Shiva.Keyera
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By Shiva.Keyera 2012-04-13 10:39:51
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So we've confirmed that the sekkanoki'd weaponskill will gain no benefit from hagakure, that's good to know. Calls for a small tweek =).
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By Ragnarok.Psych 2012-04-14 01:50:10
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Aside from the usual temps/buffs you do at the start, I love doing the following:

1. Kozen-ittai > Fudo at 300% at start.

2. Pop Dusty Wing > Sekka > Do a Tachi: Ageha > Then Shoha
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-04-14 12:23:01
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Ragnarok.Psych said: »
Aside from the usual temps/buffs you do at the start, I love doing the following: 1. Kozen-ittai > Fudo at 300% at start. 2. Pop Dusty Wing > Sekka > Do a Tachi: Ageha > Then Shoha

My start is similar to yours:


SAM should always start at 300tp, med before first fight and wings after each other fight
Hasso,zerk,agg
Pop
Fanatics first always...a SAM should be voking at the start
Voke
Sekka
Ageha
Bravers,Stal,Monarch
Meditate
Kozen
Fudo (should be at 300 by then)
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By Carbuncle.Xenhas 2012-04-14 13:57:19
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I wouldn't suggest wasting TP on ageha, especially a 100tp ageha.

I haven't got off my *** to make a post yet, but from a sample size of 100 agehas @ 300tp on EP Ypotryll in aby-kons, the proc rate was less than 10% (9% but low sample size). 20+ ageha on EM bluffalo and no def down procs. 5/15 def down procs on DC Sierra Tigers.
All of these were done at 300tp

The highest proc rate i have seen (so far) is 24/31 def down procs on my WHM mule in PvP.

At 100% tp on the same mule, 3/44 def downs occurred. Given the horrible proc rate at 300tp on mobs, i can't imagine this severely lower proc rate on my mule transferring over to be any better.

Out of all of the Agehas that I recorded, only 48% of the Def down lasted 3minutes, the rest lasted 1:30.

Def down was also 25% (the original number before people got their def down numbers while stacked with other def down debuffs (dia II etc)

Tachi: Ageha is pretty lame and inconsistent :(
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-04-14 14:02:51
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ragnarok.Psych said: »
Aside from the usual temps/buffs you do at the start, I love doing the following: 1. Kozen-ittai > Fudo at 300% at start. 2. Pop Dusty Wing > Sekka > Do a Tachi: Ageha > Then Shoha

My start is similar to yours:


SAM should always start at 300tp, med before first fight and wings after each other fight
Hasso,zerk,agg
Pop
Fanatics first always...a SAM should be voking at the start
Voke
Sekka
Ageha
Bravers,Stal,Monarch
Meditate
Kozen
Fudo (should be at 300 by then)

If I had a Masa

Hasso/Zerk/Agg
Lock/Pop/Drop
Fana
Engage/Voke
All temps
300%AM WS
Ageha
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Save meditate for a Red stagger so you're not chasing overwhelm
Meditate
WSWSWSWSWSWSWSWSWS

Save Sekka for a different red stagger when you overflow too greatly/are reapplying fana
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-04-14 14:13:13
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Carbuncle.Xenhas said: »
This kind of goes against anything everyone has said about the ws. Do you have any proof to back up your claims?
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By Carbuncle.Xenhas 2012-04-14 14:15:45
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Everything was written down. But I do have screenshots showing the time elapsing and messages showing/not showing. I am willing to post upload them if people really care. Going to go find them now.
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By Fupafighters 2012-04-14 15:59:44
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If you do ageha at start at 300 tp, should last most of the fight. I usually never see it wear off. I'll start recording how long it lasts each fight. But I don't recommend using it below 300 tp ever. I also feel like a huge noob not noticing hagakure and sengikori dont stack :/
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By Leviathan.Prototyp 2012-04-14 16:25:39
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maybe you don't see it wear because it doesn't land? lol
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By Carbuncle.Xenhas 2012-04-14 16:28:49
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My Tachi: Ageha testing thread.
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/30082/tachi-ageha-defense-down-tests/#1832834
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By Fupafighters 2012-04-14 16:29:55
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Leviathan.Prototyp said: »
maybe you don't see it wear because it doesn't land? lol
Nah. When I die, It wears, or if the fight lasts long enough (which is rare) due to no procs.
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By Leviathan.Prototyp 2012-04-14 16:34:42
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the fu Xenhas! stop your liesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss !
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By Ragnarok.Psych 2012-04-15 03:55:02
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After the Ageha testing...

Now I'm sad.