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Update 14/12/2011 PuppetMaster
 Siren.Delion
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5
By Siren.Delion 2011-12-17 11:21:00
Carbuncle.Wulfshadow said: »Anyone else having a problem with the automaton buffing party members? I used a water maneuver, but that just promps poison II... Or will only the RDM frame buff party members? WHM frame never buffed party members yesterday despite a variety of maneuvers up, thinking it's not possible.
Haven't tried rdm frame yet. It could be hate related.
In a party with a NIN and a COR. When I don't engage it will fully buff the NIN, even Haste. If I do engaged it will still buff the NIN but do me first.
Couldn't get it to buff the COR at all, even with the COR attacking.
COR never top of hate list though.
That's exactly what I was observing yesterday when I played around with the frames. The pet still prioritizes the master > person on top of hate. I didn't try deploying w/o me engaging to see if it ignores me though. The AI improvement is amazing and the addition of phalanx, stoneskin, dispel, erase, etc. just made the pet far more useful than before. It made me rumble in happiness to see it cure me, -na me and then proceed to launch a thunder IV right after @@. By the way, I've also been noticing instant cast like Quick magic for some reason and I didn't have Mana Boster or any other attachment on that improves spell casting. Makes me wonder if they added Quick Magic as an innate trait for the pet or just a bug.
edit: the WHM frame DOES buff the party up with protect shell and haste, but it's priorities are just as before, Master > Person on top of hate.
 Shiva.Dawezy
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 26
By Shiva.Dawezy 2011-12-17 11:56:10
Playing with Hellbound Warriors (Skeletons) in Eldi Necropolis earlier this login.
Auto was casting Silence and Addle on them. So Skeletons may be the new Crabs! Awesome.
Might be just me, someone else had a stab at them.
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10394
By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2011-12-17 11:57:48
Playing with Hellbound Warriors (Skeletons) in Eldi Necropolis earlier this login.
Auto was casting Silence and Addle on them. So Skeletons may be the new Crabs! Awesome.
Might be just me, someone else had a stab at them.
Except there are skeletons that cast so it isn't as dumb as crabs.
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 168
By Asura.Perrymason 2011-12-17 12:27:11
Does the AI just cast silence/addle on mobs that have MP?
 Carbuncle.Funsam
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 136
By Carbuncle.Funsam 2011-12-17 13:33:58
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Playing with Hellbound Warriors (Skeletons) in Eldi Necropolis earlier this login.
Auto was casting Silence and Addle on them. So Skeletons may be the new Crabs! Awesome.
Might be just me, someone else had a stab at them.
Except there are skeletons that cast so it isn't as dumb as crabs.
technically some crabs cast too ie. king arthro so same apply's to both
By Dragkon 2011-12-17 20:51:25
anyone find out dread spikes trigger/frame yet?
Shiva.Dawezy
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 26
By Shiva.Dawezy 2011-12-17 21:44:53
anyone find out dread spikes trigger/frame yet?
Enmity (not 100% sure, but it happened), top of hate list made my Auto cast Dread Spikes. (mob turned to him for a well placed Thunder V)
Had no other maneuvers up at the time when he cast it
 Bahamut.Mizuharu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1988
By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2011-12-18 18:46:18
This guy in my linkshell always ***talks PUP whenever he can. And every time I threw those insults back in his face, he always mentioned the flawed AI system for curing... So I made this for him. (he dual boxes mnk+whm so yeah)
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 185
By Sylph.Reaplife 2011-12-19 09:31:57
+ With one active light maneuver, automatons will now prioritize HP recovery over curing status ailments.
Automatons will also prioritize HP recovery when HP level is extremely low.
This made me happier than anything else. While all the other stuff is great, having my Auto actually cure me when my HP < 100 is just wonderful!
Zero (Auto): "Oh, you're about to die master? Silena."
/em watches Zero equip his trollface head.
Amen to this update!
By Erlayn 2011-12-20 16:22:39
I've used all the frames since update. Working on capping a few more skills, but I'd have to say Rdm is hands down the best. Haste, SS, Phalanx, Pro/Shell, Enfeebles and nukes when not doing any of these.
Is also has access to Knockout and Magic Mortar WS that deal moderate damage now and the fix to MM is amazing now for actual Light SC with Dragon Kick and boost to the damage.
All in all I loved this update and a very welcome to all of us PUP.
Fenrir.Dibble
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 141
By Fenrir.Dibble 2011-12-20 16:29:21
By the way, I've also been noticing instant cast like Quick magic for some reason and I didn't have Mana Boster or any other attachment on that improves spell casting. Makes me wonder if they added Quick Magic as an innate trait for the pet or just a bug.
Not to insult your intelligence but you don't have Atma of the Apocalypse on, do you?
Fenrir.Dibble
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 141
By Fenrir.Dibble 2011-12-20 16:32:40
This guy in my linkshell always ***talks PUP whenever he can. And every time I threw those insults back in his face, he always mentioned the flawed AI system for curing... So I made this for him. (he dual boxes mnk+whm so yeah)
Well... I appreciate the sentiment but a WHM can still cast C5 and C6 back-to-back . You're not gonna be tanking Apadamak any time soon!
Has anyone noticed that the puppet erases flash instead of using blindna?
Bahamut.Mizuharu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1988
By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2011-12-20 17:02:55
This guy in my linkshell always ***talks PUP whenever he can. And every time I threw those insults back in his face, he always mentioned the flawed AI system for curing... So I made this for him. (he dual boxes mnk+whm so yeah)
Well... I appreciate the sentiment but a WHM can still cast C5 and C6 back-to-back . You're not gonna be tanking Apadamak any time soon!
I face tanked an Ironclad Smiter with WHM frame curing and a BLM stunning the kick move. :<
Quote: Has anyone noticed that the puppet erases flash instead of using blindna?
Uh because Flash isn't Blind. You remove Flash with Erase.
Fenrir.Dibble
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 141
By Fenrir.Dibble 2011-12-20 17:04:34
Quote: Has anyone noticed that the puppet erases flash instead of using blindna?
Uh because Flash isn't Blind. You remove Flash with Erase. That's cool, then.
By Delion 2011-12-20 17:12:27
By the way, I've also been noticing instant cast like Quick magic for some reason and I didn't have Mana Boster or any other attachment on that improves spell casting. Makes me wonder if they added Quick Magic as an innate trait for the pet or just a bug.
Not to insult your intelligence but you don't have Atma of the Apocalypse on, do you?
Oh yea <_< I forgot about that. I don't use Apoc atma often on my mages, totally forgot about that. LOL
Carbuncle.Sluggo
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 25
By Carbuncle.Sluggo 2011-12-27 17:42:34
anyone find out dread spikes trigger/frame yet?
Dark maneuver with blm auto triggered, and its pretty effective, but it doesn't last long.
Also I noticed i capped magic skill @444/444 (with skill gear) but still getting skillups.
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 27982
By Shiva.Spathaian 2011-12-27 17:44:09
anyone find out dread spikes trigger/frame yet?
Dark maneuver with blm auto triggered, and its pretty effective, but it doesn't last long.
Also I noticed i capped magic skill @444/444 (with skill gear) but still getting skillups. If you have magic merits that has been a glitch for awhile. You're capped but you'll still get skill up messages until you hit the cap with merits.
Bismarck.Rosalee
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 276
By Bismarck.Rosalee 2011-12-29 08:32:45
anyone find out dread spikes trigger/frame yet?
Dark maneuver with blm auto triggered, and its pretty effective, but it doesn't last long.
Also I noticed i capped magic skill @444/444 (with skill gear) but still getting skillups. If you have magic merits that has been a glitch for awhile. You're capped but you'll still get skill up messages until you hit the cap with merits.
The same thing applys to wearing AF3+2 pants... I've been farting around Gustav a lot and got magic skill up messages clear up to 444 skill.
# Puppetmaster
* Attachment-related
o Maximum effect values for the following attachments will now increase in proportion to the number of active maneuvers:
Strobe / Inhibitor / Steam Jacket / Auto-Repair Kit II
o The required capacity of the following attachments has been reduced from 2 to 1:
Reactive Shield / Scope / Schurzen / Volt Gun
o The properties of the following attachments have been revised:
Attachment Name Revised Properties
Reactive Shield Counterattack damage will now receive a bonus in proportion to frame skill level.
Mana Booster Will now shorten casting time instead of increasing spell use frequency.
Drum Magazine Accuracy penalty has been eased slightly, and attack speed raised.
Replicator Blink shadow quantity will now increase in proportion to the number of active Wind Maneuvers.
Shock Absorber Damage absorbed will now receive a bonus based on frame skill and active Ice Maneuvers.
Armor Plate
Armor Plate +2 Will now reduce physical damage taken rather than enhancing defense.
Hammermill Shield Bash will now always hit while Hammermill is equipped.
Volt Gun Will no longer depend on enemy level, and a damage bonus will be granted based on frame skill level and active Thunder Maneuvers.
Heatsink Overload rate reduction will now apply to all maneuvers, not only Fire Maneuvers.
Damage Gauge Recast time for curing magic will be shortened.
Eraser Will cure multiple status ailments and erase only Light Maneuvers.
* Automaton-related
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o Automaton behavior patterns have been refined.
+ With one active light maneuver, automatons will now prioritize HP recovery over curing status ailments.
Automatons will also prioritize HP recovery when HP level is extremely low.
o Magic spells have been added/adjusted as follows:
+ Separate recast timers have been established for each category of magic, such as enhancing or enfeebling spells.
*Cure-type spells, Regen-type spells, and status ailment removal spells will each have their own recast timer.
+ Automatons may now learn the following spells:
Protect (I-V) / Shell (I-V) / Stoneskin / Haste / Phalanx / Erase / Absorb-Attri / Dispel / Dread Spikes / Addle / Regen IV
*Phalanx and Stoneskin will only be cast upon the master.
*Protect, Shell, and Haste will only be cast upon the master and party members.
+ Level IV elemental spells have been unlocked for the Stormwaker Y-700.
+ Automatons will now occasionally cast Cure V instead of Cure VI depending on the target's current HP.
o Weapon skill adjustments
+ A minimum damage value has been established for Magic Mortar.
o Sharpshot Z-500 adjustments:
+ Distance modifications for ranged attacks have been abolished.
* Master-related
o The job ability "Maintenance" （Lv. 30 / Recast time: 90 seconds） has been added:
+ This ability will require Automaton Oil, and will be effective on all status ailments curable by Erase and Na-type spells.
+ Up to four status ailments may be removed depending on the type of Automaton Oil used.
*To accompany this change, the new item Automaton Oil +3 (Lv. 80) has been added.
What do you pups think?
I think the magic timers separate for different types of magic is awesome and all the different spells wow.
Seems it was the perfect time to get Kenkonken :)
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