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 Phoenix.Degs
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By Phoenix.Degs 2010-12-07 09:28:42
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Anyone get it yet for Blm auto, how is it(Dmg wise).. and what skill level is it reached at... havent been able to get online yet today to do any leveling
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2010-12-10 01:43:13
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I just need 12 more skill lvs to cap maton Magic and I dont have it yet, wiki has upto Fire V but nothing on Bliz V, do we even get it?
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By Phoenix.Degs 2010-12-10 01:58:28
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I would think so, typically we have been getting anything reg. BLM's have recieved.... but im not 100%. Do you have capped merits in magic, or is that your base skill you are almost at cap?
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By Bismarck.Ruizutatakau 2010-12-10 02:00:36
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Yes I have Max Magic Skill for Automaton Merits
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By Phoenix.Degs 2010-12-10 02:10:04
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I just looked at wiki... it is possible for us to get it based on the skill level... BLMs get the Blizz 5 at 89, and their skill cap at 90 is 361... the BLM auto has a base skill cap with +2 mod for SW head of 356... so that is only a 5 level difference, and we with max merits can push out at 90 a skill level of +15 to that, giving 371.

so here's for hoping...
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By Phoenix.Degs 2010-12-10 02:13:14
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mind you we get fire 5 at 88,with base skill outside of merits, i want to say we would get it roughly when blms get it with merits at 86, so if thats the case we should be able to get blizz 5 at 88-90 with merits
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By Asura.Sechs 2010-12-10 05:43:30
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how can you people skillup so quickly? Been in a 3+hrs pt the ohter day, with which I went from 85 to 90, and got only little more than 2 full levels of skillups on my maton.

This is getting so frustrating... /crai
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By Bismarck.Gael 2010-12-10 11:27:13
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Phoenix.Degs said:
the BLM auto has a base skill cap with +2 mod for SW head of 356... so that is only a 5 level difference, and we with max merits can push out at 90 a skill level of +15 to that, giving 371.
Dont forget the skill added by af 3 legs, cause you will have to skill up on it (it's like merits -_-). So the max skill is 376 with AF 3+1 and 381 with AF 3 +2.

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how can you people skillup so quickly?
The faster way is to use the afflictor in Beadeaux but it's a bit boring and you can only get skill up until the cap w/o merit (and w/o af 3 legs ?). An other option is to go kill NMs in abyssea. I'm farming Gnawtooth Gary with whm automaton, the skill up on it not bad, like 1 lev for each kill (~15-20 minutes).

But i'm looking for something outside abyssea... it's hard to find a T+ mob in a good spot to skill up :'(
(especially for the rng and war frames).
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2010-12-10 11:32:39
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Bismarck.Gael said:


But i'm looking for something outside abyssea... it's hard to find a T+ mob in a good spot to skill up :'(
(especially for the rng and war frames).
not sure if this will help ( maybe for your war frame) but there are new VT saplings in Grauberg (s). They are down west of the knotty treants. (VT to 89) Hope that helps a bit!
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-12-10 11:41:30
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/wave Angels
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By Asura.Sechs 2010-12-10 15:55:54
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You can attack afflictors? That might be a good solution, I'll leave the maton there and I'll just afk somewhere safe D:

Main problem is skilling ranged/melee, magic is slow but kinda easier imho, at least from my experience.
I'm like at 299 ranged atm, and uhm... something like 282 on melee
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By Bismarck.Gael 2010-12-10 19:18:28
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Leviathan.Angelskiss said:
not sure if this will help ( maybe for your war frame) but there are new VT saplings in Grauberg (s). They are down west of the knotty treants. (VT to 89) Hope that helps a bit!

Thanks a lot ^^


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You can attack afflictors? That might be a good solution, I'll leave the maton there and I'll just afk somewhere safe D:

No, but you can put the automaton outside the curse range, deploy it on a mob around (they are in a small room so close enough to deploy but w/o aggro them) while you go in curse range. It will always do a cursna on you and never attack the mob.

About rng automaton, it's easy, as soon you find a mob which doesnt aggro like the Feyweald Sapling that Angelskiss saw in Grauberg, you can macro a DAD and if you have windower, you start the macro before go ZzZ, when you will wake up, you will be capped lol.


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By Asura.Baroma 2010-12-11 12:29:34
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I been skilling up like mad in Beadeux cursna thing, i am @371 with and i now have Blizz5, so its somwhere around there
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By Asura.Baroma 2010-12-11 12:50:43
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Asura.Sechs said:
how can you people skillup so quickly? Been in a 3+hrs pt the ohter day, with which I went from 85 to 90, and got only little more than 2 full levels of skillups on my maton.

This is getting so frustrating... /crai

Yeah man, just go to Beadeux and get cursed from afflictor, have whm automatoon cursa spam., I grab a crawler from the Mute area and /sch to regen and sublimation.
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By Asura.Baroma 2010-12-11 13:23:09
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Went and did some testing, All in all. averaging 22-2400 dmg on birds with 2 ice 1 water up. Loud speakers and Ice Maker and mana channeler. also have top pet mab Trial weapon (+10) and relic feet

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By Gilgamesh.Cardinalgate 2010-12-11 13:38:29
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i been doing 2k+ to mobs and nm's inside abyssea zones

edit oh wait this is in pup
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-11 14:11:57
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Gilgamesh.Cardinalgate said:
i been doing 2k+ to mobs and nm's inside abyssea zones

edit oh wait this is in pup
Kinda low for blm... no atmas?
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2010-12-11 14:38:26
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With atma of the ultimate and atma of the kirin I was doing 1900 Aero IV on RDM so 2k+ does sound low.
 
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-12-11 15:33:54
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Cerberus.Tidis said:
With atma of the ultimate and atma of the kirin I was doing 1900 Aero IV on RDM so 2k+ does sound low.


with JUST atma of gales my puppet with trip ice can hit 3200... so ya 2k is low as hell for any nuke dmg... hell on sch with just atma of the ultimate (as far as atma goes) and T1 MAB drink, hailstorm hyorin obi, i was hitting 3k bliz 4's in vunk last night
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-11 15:45:49
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Yeah I hit 2k+ with blizz 3 lol
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By Asura.Baroma 2010-12-11 15:47:52
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Cerberus.Tidis said:
With atma of the ultimate and atma of the kirin I was doing 1900 Aero IV on RDM so 2k+ does sound low.


with JUST atma of gales my puppet with trip ice can hit 3200... so ya 2k is low as hell for any nuke dmg... hell on sch with just atma of the ultimate (as far as atma goes) and T1 MAB drink, hailstorm hyorin obi, i was hitting 3k bliz 4's in vunk last night

lol u didnt seee i wasnt in abyssea, thats regular nukeing.. 2400 >.>
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-11 15:55:10
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lol You didn't see that it was in reference to someone else not you...
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By Asura.Ziekwalt 2010-12-11 15:57:02
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With Atma of the Beyond+ Atma of the Minikin I have been averaging around 2800-4000dmg thru bliz5 in abyssea depending on the mob that I am fighting and with MBs I get sick dmg around 3500-6000. But outside in normal areas its around 2200-3000dmg MBs 2500-4200.
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By Asura.Baroma 2010-12-11 16:02:08
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Asura.Ziekwalt said:
With Atma of the Beyond+ Atma of the Minikin I have been averaging around 2800-4000dmg thru bliz5 in abyssea depending on the mob that I am fighting and with MBs I get sick dmg around 3500-6000. But outside in normal areas its around 2200-3000dmg MBs 2500-4200.

again, this is pup forum not blm, i just saw ur pup is 0 hehe
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-12-11 17:10:32
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i'll have to bust comedie out in non-abyssea then when i cap magic to see the dmg on lessers
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By Asura.Baroma 2010-12-11 17:24:53
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Cerberus.Tidis said:
With atma of the ultimate and atma of the kirin I was doing 1900 Aero IV on RDM so 2k+ does sound low.


with JUST atma of gales my puppet with trip ice can hit 3200... so ya 2k is low as hell for any nuke dmg... hell on sch with just atma of the ultimate (as far as atma goes) and T1 MAB drink, hailstorm hyorin obi, i was hitting 3k bliz 4's in vunk last night

2 ice 1 water gives more mab (and less overload) than 3 ice, correct me if im wrong...
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By Phoenix.Degs 2010-12-11 17:40:27
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Asura.Baroma said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Cerberus.Tidis said:
With atma of the ultimate and atma of the kirin I was doing 1900 Aero IV on RDM so 2k+ does sound low.


with JUST atma of gales my puppet with trip ice can hit 3200... so ya 2k is low as hell for any nuke dmg... hell on sch with just atma of the ultimate (as far as atma goes) and T1 MAB drink, hailstorm hyorin obi, i was hitting 3k bliz 4's in vunk last night

2 ice 1 water gives more mab (and less overload) than 3 ice, correct me if im wrong...
I usually do 1 water to start and 2 ice, and if casting completes before i can get up another ice, then i accept it... but i dont see much of a difference between that and three water especially with +pet macc/matk gear and bonuses
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2010-12-11 17:42:21
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Asura.Baroma said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Cerberus.Tidis said:
With atma of the ultimate and atma of the kirin I was doing 1900 Aero IV on RDM so 2k+ does sound low.


with JUST atma of gales my puppet with trip ice can hit 3200... so ya 2k is low as hell for any nuke dmg... hell on sch with just atma of the ultimate (as far as atma goes) and T1 MAB drink, hailstorm hyorin obi, i was hitting 3k bliz 4's in vunk last night

2 ice 1 water gives more mab (and less overload) than 3 ice, correct me if im wrong...
If you are refering to the boost from Mana Channeler compared to Loudspeakers... No each loudspeaker adds another +5 from that 3rd ice maneuver resulting in +10MAB where as one water maneuver from Mana Channeler only adds +5 from its base effect. Also remember that Ice Maker is a straight % increase and not MAB and x2 Ice is only 40%dmg increase while x3 is 60%.
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By Asura.Baroma 2010-12-11 19:15:22
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Shiva.Spathaian said:
Asura.Baroma said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Cerberus.Tidis said:
With atma of the ultimate and atma of the kirin I was doing 1900 Aero IV on RDM so 2k+ does sound low.


with JUST atma of gales my puppet with trip ice can hit 3200... so ya 2k is low as hell for any nuke dmg... hell on sch with just atma of the ultimate (as far as atma goes) and T1 MAB drink, hailstorm hyorin obi, i was hitting 3k bliz 4's in vunk last night

2 ice 1 water gives more mab (and less overload) than 3 ice, correct me if im wrong...
If you are refering to the boost from Mana Channeler compared to Loudspeakers... No each loudspeaker adds another +5 from that 3rd ice maneuver resulting in +10MAB where as one water maneuver from Mana Channeler only adds +5 from its base effect. Also remember that Ice Maker is a straight % increase and not MAB and x2 Ice is only 40%dmg increase while x3 is 60%.

Hmmm making my brain hurt. i do ice, water, ice deploy, seems more productive due to less chance of overloading on that 3rd one, granted 3 could do more dmg, unless u like seeing <pet> is Overloaded on the next round. :/
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