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 Leviathan.Nuin
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By Leviathan.Nuin 2010-06-24 01:30:59
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Ok...
Don't get me wrong. It says it lowers DEF but has anyone figured out the point of this WS other than to say they gave SAM a ws >.>
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-06-24 01:31:30
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Its pretty.
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By Phoenix.Smileybone 2010-06-24 01:34:22
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I can't believe it doesn't have a Fragmentation sc property :/
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-06-24 01:34:23
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Can't expect all the new Ws's to be good, as there will be more on the way to 99.

Phoenix.Smileybone said:
I can't believe it doesn't have a Fragmentation sc property :/

No solo light for you!
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By Shiva.Lorielain 2010-06-24 01:42:54
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What about the rumors that it's CHR based?
I hear it's getting pretty bad numbers with STR setups.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-06-24 01:43:44
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Asura.Ludoggy said:
Its girly.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-24 01:46:43
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Caitsith.Linear said:
Its girly.
NO U!
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-06-24 01:49:57
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Im going to go out on a limb here and make a couple speculations/assumptions.

First off it cant even do a level 3 skillchain I havent even been able to find a level 2 with it yet than agian i didnt look long for level 2.

Seeing the aeful damage and the bad chaining capabilities Im going to have to assume you can upgrade it later in some way more maybe use a certian weapon to make it more useful.

Also I think MAB might effect its damage as other new ws are affected by MAB I read (dont remember which ones).

Tha agian I got no idea what Im talkign about maybe they intended it to be worse then enpi?
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2010-06-24 01:51:19
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Shiva.Lorielain said:
What about the rumors that it's CHR based?
I hear it's getting pretty bad numbers with STR setups.
That is only because of that gkatana with CHR+20 on it... people jumped to conclusions.

And yeah i guess it does look kinda girly.

http://ffxi.clinpachi.com/ I made an entire site out of the ageha design... starting to regret that becuase it suckkkkkkks lol.
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-06-24 01:52:10
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Koki is TH
Ageha is TH2

:P
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-06-24 02:01:49
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Clinpachi has TOOOO much time on his hands lol
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-06-24 02:02:44
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Siren.Clinpachi said:
Shiva.Lorielain said:
What about the rumors that it's CHR based?
I hear it's getting pretty bad numbers with STR setups.
That is only because of that gkatana with CHR 20 on it... people jumped to conclusions.

And yeah i guess it does look kinda girly.

http://ffxi.clinpachi.com/ I made an entire site out of the ageha design... starting to regret that becuase it suckkkkkkks lol.
I see what you did thar >_>
Advertisment lol
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-06-24 02:04:07
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I fell for it. Its not even complete, he doesnt have his web comics up yet
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By Fenrir.Shindo 2010-06-24 02:11:07
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It's situational, but can't complain about having it.

Personally I was hoping for a Slow effect, but I'll take this too.
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By Lakshmi.Wardens 2010-07-02 09:08:24
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A slow effect would be sooo much nicer... Hmm.. What if you use it shortly before you 2hr? lol Then you can lower it's defense before you do a light sc? Damn... Surely they could have given SAM something more impressive? But as you guys said there will most likely be 2-3 more ws's if not more later on. I guess there is still time.
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By Cerberus.Savannah 2010-07-02 09:10:57
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I heard some it does some good damage to some mobs in Abyssea...other than that I have no idea
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By Diabolos.Megatron 2010-07-02 09:36:13
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its total JUNK if i could delete it feom my weaponskill list i would. a 1600 gekko vs a 400 gaybutterflyweaponskill
no real math needed so peopel can take the old "It's situational" comments and thoughts and understand no ther is no situation i would choose it over gekko.
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By Caitsith.Omicronceti 2010-07-02 16:32:49
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Diabolos.Megatron said:
its total JUNK if i could delete it feom my weaponskill list i would. a 1600 gekko vs a 400 gaybutterflyweaponskill
no real math needed so peopel can take the old "It's situational" comments and thoughts and understand no ther is no situation i would choose it over gekko.
No situation? Really?
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By Asura.Tristean 2010-07-02 22:08:30
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Cerberus.Savannah said:
I heard some it does some good damage to some mobs in Abyssea...other than that I have no idea

Probably because of this thing called atma. If a !! appeared next to the mob, it's weak to that WS. Same goes with spells and job abilities.

So there's your one situation where I guess it's useful. I like watching butterflies fly everywhere though.
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-07-02 22:20:49
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Diabolos.Megatron said:
its total JUNK if i could delete it feom my weaponskill list i would. a 1600 gekko vs a 400 gaybutterflyweaponskill no real math needed so peopel can take the old "It's situational" comments and thoughts and understand no ther is no situation i would choose it over gekko.

Oh *** its megatron! call Optimus PRIME!
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-07-02 22:22:09
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Siren.Clinpachi said:
Shiva.Lorielain said:
What about the rumors that it's CHR based?
I hear it's getting pretty bad numbers with STR setups.
That is only because of that gkatana with CHR 20 on it... people jumped to conclusions.

And yeah i guess it does look kinda girly.

http://ffxi.clinpachi.com/ I made an entire site out of the ageha design... starting to regret that becuase it suckkkkkkks lol.

Dude. I like the music
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-07-02 22:23:01
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music is a little loud though
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By Fairy.Haxorking 2010-07-02 23:03:10
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Idk if it's ever occurred to anyone but your personal damage isn't the only thing that matters. If the defense reduction increases your parties damage output by more then your normal WS would, it's better than whatever weaponskill you'd normally use for damage. Anyone bother testing how much of a def reduction it gives? Sounds perfect for zerg really. Even if it's only 5% def reduction (Which it's most likely more, possibly varies with tp) the damage increase the alliance is going to receive will be MUCH higher then what a normal ws from you would have done.
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By Gilgamesh.Cardinalgate 2010-07-02 23:12:28
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Siren.Clinpachi said:
Shiva.Lorielain said:
What about the rumors that it's CHR based?
I hear it's getting pretty bad numbers with STR setups.
That is only because of that gkatana with CHR 20 on it... people jumped to conclusions.

And yeah i guess it does look kinda girly.

http://ffxi.clinpachi.com/ I made an entire site out of the ageha design... starting to regret that becuase it suckkkkkkks lol.


nice look man :3

oh yeah i loled at the Blacklist
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By Carbuncle.Ronson 2010-07-05 14:32:48
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not to be a *** but i think peeps are missing the part where it says LOWERS DEFENCE!!

you hit the mob with this and other de-buffs and the party as a whole will dot more no?(for a limited time)

i mean heck its not like sam has to wait 2 minutes to build tp to use this now and then >.>

too many sam's think about been john rambo than using there brains :(

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By Bahamut.Satanas 2010-07-05 14:42:49
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Carbuncle.Ronson said:
not to be a *** but i think peeps are missing the part where it says LOWERS DEFENCE!!

you hit the mob with this and other de-buffs and the party as a whole will dot more no?(for a limited time)

i mean heck its not like sam has to wait 2 minutes to build tp to use this now and then >.>

too many sam's think about been john rambo than using there brains :(

lol true, but guess you can say it's situational in ways where a mob will last long enough for the effect will be useful, it's not like your gonna use it on a mob that dies in 2-3ws's.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-07-05 14:44:27
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Not to pick on your comment Ronson, but I'm sure theres a cap on LOWERS DEFENSE!!!, in which a mage should have casted Dia on it already if the situation permits.
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By Carbuncle.Ronson 2010-07-07 13:50:56
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Odin.Dirtyfinger said:
Not to pick on your comment Ronson, but I'm sure theres a cap on LOWERS DEFENSE!!!, in which a mage should have casted Dia on it already if the situation permits.


ow ya valid point but cant always have dia to hand :(

maybe this and the dnc move lower defence stack?

just trying to state nicely that its not always about jumping in with your best ws..if thats the case then why make such a usless ws :(

i dont no about others but i dont mind opening with this if i have tp..but thats just me ^^
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By Leviathan.Nuin 2010-07-11 17:13:15
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Also even with the Def down
How many ppl would use it for that
BRD get Requiem and how often do they use that ?
SAM is about SC and dps not debuffing
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2010-07-11 17:29:01
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Leviathan.Nuin said:
BRD get Requiem and how often do they use that ?

Most BRD don't use Requiem because seemingly 75% of monsters in game /RESIST/ it. I use it everytime I can, aside from merit pts (its a waste of a spell to cast every mob, when you could be buffing, or pulling another mob), mobs I know that resist, and mobs I know that will be slept repeatedly.
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