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Rice Ball Sams any left?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-20 20:44:10
Ifrit.Eikechi said: oh don't get me wrong Veg, if I had B Haidate, or Usukane pants, I'd definitely use um to add some haste into the mix
Which goes back to
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: The shittier your build is, the better rice balls become in comparison.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-05-20 20:45:34
idk if i'd call mine "shitty" though lol....oh well, not a lot of haste = shitty in most people's books hehe (but ya i need a salvage group/sky group to get usu or byakko's..its haste i want to add to my set)
edit: yes i do have dusk gloves, and yes i do have sarutobi kyahan, and turban, i just choose riceballs is all...preference i guess
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-20 20:47:45
I said shittier aka worse. Even if you don't consider a build w/o byakko's ***, it's still worse than a build w/ byakko's.
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2010-05-20 20:50:25
Ifrit.Eikechi said: oh don't get me wrong Veg, if I had B Haidate, or Usukane pants, I'd definitely use um to add some haste into the mix
edit: dude you made 5 STACKS of shogun? thats a crazy amount of HQing at 100 cooking lol nice 5 stacks in two days? I almost want to call BS on that, but it's been a long time since I crafted riceballs.
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By Cerberus.Forseti 2010-05-20 21:34:28
What id like to know is if anyones tried shogun riceballs with love halberd. Id imagine the crazy swinging would be fun regardless. Been saving lil by lil for months and got a stack of shogun. Been waiting to use em till i get the feet.
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By Bahamut.Satanas 2010-05-20 22:20:55
I know it's a noob question of me to ask but.... Can you eat the rice ball tp in haste gear and ws in the gear that effects riceball for the added effects?(att/DA)Than switch back to haste gear for TP?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-05-20 22:22:36
Bahamut.Satanas said: I know it's a noob question of me to ask but.... Can you eat the rice ball tp in haste gear and ws in the gear that effects riceball for the added effects?(att/DA)Than switch back to haste gear for TP?
short answer; yes and thats not a bad idea, but you can also eat high att food, and have the buff all the time, not just on WS
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-20 22:43:25
Cerberus.Forseti said: What id like to know is if anyones tried shogun riceballs with love halberd. Id imagine the crazy swinging would be fun regardless. Been saving lil by lil for months and got a stack of shogun. Been waiting to use em till i get the feet. Love halbred would make the DA procs worth less.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-05-20 22:44:20
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Cerberus.Forseti said: What id like to know is if anyones tried shogun riceballs with love halberd. Id imagine the crazy swinging would be fun regardless. Been saving lil by lil for months and got a stack of shogun. Been waiting to use em till i get the feet. Love halbred would make the DA procs worth less.
but can't the virtue stone weapons stack with DA? so how would that be worth less?
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-05-20 22:49:07
Ifrit.Eikechi said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Cerberus.Forseti said: What id like to know is if anyones tried shogun riceballs with love halberd. Id imagine the crazy swinging would be fun regardless. Been saving lil by lil for months and got a stack of shogun. Been waiting to use em till i get the feet. Love halbred would make the DA procs worth less.
but can't the virtue stone weapons stack with DA? so how would that be worth less?
As much as i hate to echo the question I'd enjoy an answer too^
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-20 22:49:47
Ifrit.Eikechi said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Cerberus.Forseti said: What id like to know is if anyones tried shogun riceballs with love halberd. Id imagine the crazy swinging would be fun regardless. Been saving lil by lil for months and got a stack of shogun. Been waiting to use em till i get the feet. Love halbred would make the DA procs worth less.
but can't the virtue stone weapons stack with DA? so how would that be worth less? Because.
Let's say love halbred has a 50% double attack rate.
100 attack rounds = 150 attacks. = 50 extra attacks from love halbred.
Now let's say you have /war and some random gear and have +20% double attack.
100 attack rounds, you'll get 20 procs.
100 attack rounds w/ no love halbred or DA = 100 attacks.
So we have reg weapon
100 vs 120 attacks
Love halbred 150 vs 170 attacks.
120/100 = 20% increase
170/150 = 13.33% increase.
The more attacks you have, the less you gain from adding more, percentage wise of an increase
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-05-20 22:56:14
eh w/e
MAATS CAP FTW.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-20 23:00:12
Phoenix.Darki said: eh w/e
MAATS CAP FTW. Keep telling yourself that.
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By Katoke 2010-05-20 23:02:52
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Phoenix.Darki said: eh w/e
MAATS CAP FTW. Keep telling yourself that.
Speaking of which ....
lol
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-05-20 23:09:10
Katoke said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Phoenix.Darki said: eh w/e
MAATS CAP FTW. Keep telling yourself that.
Speaking of which ....
lol
he just mad he can't get.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-20 23:12:48
Phoenix.Darki said: Katoke said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Phoenix.Darki said: eh w/e
MAATS CAP FTW. Keep telling yourself that.
Speaking of which ....
lol
he just mad he can't get. Oh yes, I'm so jealous over a piece I'd use for none of my jobs! you got me
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-05-20 23:19:47
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Phoenix.Darki said: Katoke said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Phoenix.Darki said: eh w/e
MAATS CAP FTW. Keep telling yourself that.
Speaking of which ....
lol
he just mad he can't get. Oh yes, I'm so jealous over a piece I'd use for none of my jobs! you got me Yeah looked through your jobs, you have 75 drg but 25 whm and 10rdm.
you don't solo on drg? :/ damn that blows.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-20 23:22:23
Phoenix.Darki said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Oh yes, I'm so jealous over a piece I'd use for none of my jobs! you got me Yeah looked through your jobs, you have 75 drg but 25 whm and 10rdm.
you don't solo on drg? :/ damn that blows. lol?
Hint: /BLU37, though for all I know no, he only solos on MNK. I do know he uses /BLU for Ballista, hence it being leveled.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-20 23:23:57
Cant Jailer weapons proc off the double attack or am I thinking they can proc during WS?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-20 23:25:33
Jailer OAT stacks with DA but does not proc on WS. Even so, the more DA you have the less effective adding more will be.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-05-20 23:25:35
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Phoenix.Darki said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Oh yes, I'm so jealous over a piece I'd use for none of my jobs! you got me Yeah looked through your jobs, you have 75 drg but 25 whm and 10rdm.
you don't solo on drg? :/ damn that blows. lol?
Hint: /BLU37, though for all I know no, he only solos on MNK. I do know he uses /BLU for Ballista, hence it being leveled.
sorry i was talking to him, where did you come from? lol
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-05-20 23:26:40
Since the inception of Astral Burning, Maat's cap doesn't mean anything anymore other than time wasted not capping your merits for your primaries or being productive irl. Sorry :/
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-20 23:27:39
Phoenix.Darki said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Phoenix.Darki said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Oh yes, I'm so jealous over a piece I'd use for none of my jobs! you got me Yeah looked through your jobs, you have 75 drg but 25 whm and 10rdm.
you don't solo on drg? :/ damn that blows. lol?
Hint: /BLU37, though for all I know no, he only solos on MNK. I do know he uses /BLU for Ballista, hence it being leveled.
sorry i was talking to him, where did you come from? lol Nothing better to respond with? I'm free to respond to posts as I wish, don't get mayad just because you forgot about /BLU.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-05-20 23:28:32
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Phoenix.Darki said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Phoenix.Darki said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Oh yes, I'm so jealous over a piece I'd use for none of my jobs! you got me Yeah looked through your jobs, you have 75 drg but 25 whm and 10rdm.
you don't solo on drg? :/ damn that blows. lol?
Hint: /BLU37, though for all I know no, he only solos on MNK. I do know he uses /BLU for Ballista, hence it being leveled.
sorry i was talking to him, where did you come from? lol Nothing better to respond with? I'm free to respond to posts as I wish, don't get mayad just because you forgot about /BLU.
eh I wasnt even mad about that silly thing wth?
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-20 23:29:32
Something ive always wondered. If DA gets worse the more you have, what is the "magic" percent to have it be the most affective?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-20 23:30:25
0%->1%?
There's no magic number about it, each successive point of DA contributes less to your DPS. This doesn't make stacking DA as appropriate necessarily bad even with a Jailer or other OAT weapon in hand (though it will devalue it somewhat), just the nature of the stat.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2010-05-20 23:31:19
Well, im just trying to make sense of it, the more DA you add, the worst it gets right?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-20 23:32:44
Yes. Adding 5% DA when you already have 50% will do less for you than adding 5% when you had 0% previously.
Pup by far is the job I <3 the most out of my 13 75's. Sam from time to time I like to mix it up and play around with gear. I've always been a Rice ball Sam even if im 5/5 Usukane. Most of my rice ball fun is only in campaign so much fun xD. But when I rock Sam in salvage I break out the big boys (Shogun Rice Balls) /war and use gear setup for 5 hit build. Well let me know if any other Rice ball Sams still around let me hear your setup or experiences.
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