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Anyone still doing AF burn ?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-08 14:06:29
Bismarck.Munky said: I'm a lazy *** and you're all HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Sound about right?
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By Bismarck.Munky 2010-05-08 14:07:53
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: Bismarck.Munky said: Bismarck.Josiahkf said: Beastmaster 75 is the best job to astral burn, its the most potent subjob and needs no skills whatsoever, the OP could be whm/bst and charm lvl 71 mobs easily thanks to bst75 even with zero skill leveled on that bst
Come on guys lol interrogating the hell out of him
AF Burn Beast-master it must be a touchy subject.
I can completely understand thier point if its your first and main 75 like rdm with no enfeebling skill and you jump into dynamis but jeeze, this is like someone saving money on Geico and everyone asks "why would you do that?" Its not like your bst75 will *** over their events. Maybe just bored?
Are you assuming that this is my first character and beast master is going to be my first 75 job like everyone else.
Honestly i would think there would be someone who would actually would take their time to think-before they start making idiocy statements and assumptions.
***... for a sec there i thought we live in a perfect world. need to stop watching those Walgreen commercial.
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By Ifrit.Munkys 2010-05-08 14:09:23
Siren.Enternius said: I suck *** for money so i can support my family and my ffxi addiction.
sounds about right?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-08 14:13:28
Ifrit.Munkys said: Siren.Enternius said: I suck *** for money so i can support my family and my ffxi addiction.
sounds about right? Maybe if I still played FFXI, had a family, or hell, actually needed money.
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2010-05-08 14:14:01
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: Its not like your bst75 will *** over their events.
Because no one brings BSTs to events. (At least, when I played)
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By Bismarck.Munky 2010-05-08 14:15:36
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: ]I said if this was your first and main 75 their point would of been more valid, I never assumed it was and I didn't ask you to clarify.
Sorry I was on the assumption bandwagon like the rest of the people who are on it. :)
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By Bismarck.Munky 2010-05-08 14:17:52
Siren.Enternius said: Maybe if I still played FFXI,
This is interesting...
Please continue.
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By Ifrit.Munkys 2010-05-08 14:18:50
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: Because no one brings BSTs to events. (At least, when I played)
Maybe your server does!!!!
LOl
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By Bismarck.Munky 2010-05-08 14:22:03
Bismarck is becoming popular or people are that bored and have nothing else to do on a Saturday. God! I'll envy you all if you're home right now and trolling on these forums and this thread.
Wish i didn't have to work today... : :
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-08 14:22:51
Bismarck.Munky said: Siren.Enternius said: Maybe if I still played FFXI,
This is interesting...
Please continue. I don't. I gave my character away back in October of last year and the person I gave it to quit on February so my character has been inactive since then. I set it so you could see my last AH sale if you don't believe me.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-05-08 14:25:58
Shiva.Flionheart said: If you want more CHR, sing 2x CHR song on you and break 120 total CHR.
I might be getting whooshed, but is this a jab at his poor debuff gear set, not being able to hit 120 on his own, or having time to sing 2 extra chr songs?
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By Valefor.Sketchkat 2010-05-08 14:26:52
Bismarck.Munky said: Bismarck is becoming popular or people are that bored and have nothing else to do on a Saturday. God! I'll envy you all if you're home right now and trolling on these forums and this thread.
Wish i didn't have to work today... : :
Why are you going back and forth between Bismarck and Ifrit characters for each post?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-08 14:27:08
Bismarck.Altar said: Shiva.Flionheart said: If you want more CHR, sing 2x CHR song on you and break 120 total CHR.
I might be getting whooshed, but is this a jab at his poor debuff gear set, not being able to hit 120 on his own, or having time to sing 2 extra chr songs? All three. Seeing as how skill is next to useless for debuffs, there's no reason not to stack exclusively CHR and MACC, and he was doing it wrong in the first place.
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2010-05-08 14:27:41
Bismarck.Munky said: Bismarck is becoming popular or people are that bored and have nothing else to do on a Saturday. God! I'll envy you all if you're home right now and trolling on these forums and this thread.
Wish i didn't have to work today... : :
You're right. I do have nothing better to do. After having a back breaking week at work, lugging around insanely obese cats that want nothing more than to put me in the hospital all week, I have nothing better to do than stream television and movies while trolling this forum.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-08 14:27:47
Siren.Enternius said: Bismarck.Altar said: Shiva.Flionheart said: If you want more CHR, sing 2x CHR song on you and break 120 total CHR.
I might be getting whooshed, but is this a jab at his poor debuff gear set, not being able to hit 120 on his own, or having time to sing 2 extra chr songs? All three. Seeing as how skill is next to useless for debuffs, there's no reason not to stack exclusively CHR and MACC, and he was doing it wrong in the first place.
Skill isn't useless for debuffs...
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By Bismarck.Munky 2010-05-08 14:27:55
Siren.Enternius said: I don't. I gave my character away back in October of last year and the person I gave it to quit on February so my character has been inactive since then. I set it so you could see my last AH sale if you don't believe me.
Can i have the link of your Journal so, i can save you the trouble on explaining to all of us your life & FFXI stories.
Thanks :)
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-08 14:29:31
Shiva.Flionheart said: Siren.Enternius said: Bismarck.Altar said: Shiva.Flionheart said: If you want more CHR, sing 2x CHR song on you and break 120 total CHR.
I might be getting whooshed, but is this a jab at his poor debuff gear set, not being able to hit 120 on his own, or having time to sing 2 extra chr songs? All three. Seeing as how skill is next to useless for debuffs, there's no reason not to stack exclusively CHR and MACC, and he was doing it wrong in the first place.
Skill isn't useless for debuffs... Well, not useLESS, but just stupid to stack for them. One skill only gives .5 MACC after 400(?) total skill, so unless you can get twice as much skill in a slot, there's no reason to prioritize it over CHR.
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2010-05-08 14:29:44
Bismarck.Munky said: Siren.Enternius said: I don't. I gave my character away back in October of last year and the person I gave it to quit on February so my character has been inactive since then. I set it so you could see my last AH sale if you don't believe me.
Can i have the link of your Journal so, i can save you the trouble on explaining to all of us your life & FFXI stories.
Thanks :)
Why do you ask people to "continue" only to give a retard reply like that?
He hurt your e-feelings that much?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-08 14:31:30
Siren.Enternius said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Siren.Enternius said: Bismarck.Altar said: Shiva.Flionheart said: If you want more CHR, sing 2x CHR song on you and break 120 total CHR.
I might be getting whooshed, but is this a jab at his poor debuff gear set, not being able to hit 120 on his own, or having time to sing 2 extra chr songs? All three. Seeing as how skill is next to useless for debuffs, there's no reason not to stack exclusively CHR and MACC, and he was doing it wrong in the first place.
Skill isn't useless for debuffs... Well, not useLESS, but just stupid to stack for them. One skill only gives .5 MACC after 400(?) total skill, so unless you can get twice as much skill in a slot, there's no reason to prioritize it over CHR.
Has this been proven anywhere? I'm pretty sure skill gives 0.9 Macc at all times, regardless of cumulative skill.
CHR is simple to cap too. Really it should go Macc > Skill > CHR
And if skill only gives 0.5, it gives the same amount of Macc as chr does
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By Bismarck.Munky 2010-05-08 14:31:37
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: You're right. I do have nothing better to do. After having a back breaking week at work, lugging around insanely obese cats that want nothing more than to put me in the hospital all week, I have nothing better to do than stream television and movies while trolling this forum.
I'm never right. Also, you sound more like you're in some dead end job that you started when you were 17. I'm just assuming by your post.
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2010-05-08 14:32:42
Bismarck.Munky said: Cerberus.Katarzyna said: You're right. I do have nothing better to do. After having a back breaking week at work, lugging around insanely obese cats that want nothing more than to put me in the hospital all week, I have nothing better to do than stream television and movies while trolling this forum.
I'm never right. Also, you sound more like you're in some dead end job that you started when you were 17. I'm just assuming by your post.
Try again, champ.
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By Bismarck.Munky 2010-05-08 14:33:50
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: He hurt your e-feelings that much?
He did old man? It must be the shitty the job you have and the older you get the wiser you get.
Sounds about right?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-08 14:34:26
Shiva.Flionheart said: Siren.Enternius said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Siren.Enternius said: Bismarck.Altar said: Shiva.Flionheart said: If you want more CHR, sing 2x CHR song on you and break 120 total CHR.
I might be getting whooshed, but is this a jab at his poor debuff gear set, not being able to hit 120 on his own, or having time to sing 2 extra chr songs? All three. Seeing as how skill is next to useless for debuffs, there's no reason not to stack exclusively CHR and MACC, and he was doing it wrong in the first place.
Skill isn't useless for debuffs... Well, not useLESS, but just stupid to stack for them. One skill only gives .5 MACC after 400(?) total skill, so unless you can get twice as much skill in a slot, there's no reason to prioritize it over CHR.
Has this been proven anywhere? I'm pretty sure skill gives 0.9 Macc at all times, regardless of cumulative skill.
CHR is simple to cap too. Really it should go Macc > Skill > CHR
And if skill only gives 0.5, it gives the same amount of Macc as chr does I can't cite a source, as I haven't really been concerned about BRD stuff in a while, but even so, if you're not capped in CHR (As whoever it is we're talking about wasn't) then CHR is at least twice as useful.
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By Ifrit.Munkys 2010-05-08 14:35:09
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: Try again, champ.
No need to try chief. :)
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-05-08 14:35:40
Shiva.Flionheart said: Has this been proven anywhere? I'm pretty sure skill gives 0.9 Macc at all times, regardless of cumulative skill.
CHR is simple to cap too. Really it should go Macc > Skill > CHR
And if skill only gives 0.5, it gives the same amount of Macc as chr does
Removed quote train, but you're both right (and wrong). It hasn't been proven anywhere that I know of, but you do get decreasing returns from skill > acc/att for melee jobs as your skill goes up, I would assume it is the same or similar for bard. It's highly unlikely that it is a static 0.9, because ~450 macc from skill alone is not plausible given the degree of resists bards can get. There is no "cap" for Chr where xtra chr becomes useless.
Personally I gear my debuff for MAcc > Chr > Skill
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2010-05-08 14:35:53
Bismarck.Munky said: Cerberus.Katarzyna said: He hurt your e-feelings that much?
He did old man? It must be the shitty the job you have and the older you get the wiser you get.
Sounds about right?
Is this the part of the thread where you start to not make any sense? If so, why don't you just skip to the part where you call me whatever 4 letter word comes to mind, then storm off and cry in a corner.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-08 14:36:52
Siren.Enternius said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Siren.Enternius said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Siren.Enternius said: Bismarck.Altar said: Shiva.Flionheart said: If you want more CHR, sing 2x CHR song on you and break 120 total CHR.
I might be getting whooshed, but is this a jab at his poor debuff gear set, not being able to hit 120 on his own, or having time to sing 2 extra chr songs? All three. Seeing as how skill is next to useless for debuffs, there's no reason not to stack exclusively CHR and MACC, and he was doing it wrong in the first place.
Skill isn't useless for debuffs... Well, not useLESS, but just stupid to stack for them. One skill only gives .5 MACC after 400(?) total skill, so unless you can get twice as much skill in a slot, there's no reason to prioritize it over CHR.
Has this been proven anywhere? I'm pretty sure skill gives 0.9 Macc at all times, regardless of cumulative skill.
CHR is simple to cap too. Really it should go Macc > Skill > CHR
And if skill only gives 0.5, it gives the same amount of Macc as chr does I can't cite a source, as I haven't really been concerned about BRD stuff in a while, but even so, if you're not capped in CHR (As whoever it is we're talking about wasn't) then CHR is at least twice as useful.
Huh? I might be missing something here, but if skill is giving 0.5 macc, and chr is giving 0.5 macc surely it would be better to use the piece that gives you the overall better Macc.
Hence using AF+1 legs over Sha'ir legs for wind based debuffs
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By Bismarck.Munky 2010-05-08 14:38:24
Valefor.Sketchkat said: Why are you going back and forth between Bismarck and Ifrit characters for each post?
It's not on purpose and I'm at work. So, if my attention is need it i attend to reply people without looking on the name.
Need to AF my beast-master to 75. Also, I willing to AF my SMN to 75 and return the favor who ever is willing to help me.
~Thank you~
PM me please.
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