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By mithramegz 2016-08-27 22:43:11
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Ive noticed people have problem with the meaning of words around here.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-27 22:49:09
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Too true.
 
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-08-28 11:55:46
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Boarman:
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Today, he's running for President because he's convinced that's what Gods wants him to do
Lol, vote for Jeanne d'Arc 2016!
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By Valefor.Rawry 2016-08-28 12:01:25
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Well after skimming through the entire list of independents now I see that being batshit crazy is not uncommon for these guys. I guess Lordgrim will fit right in.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-28 16:14:12
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Took the Quiz, got Gary Johnson on top (shut up Kojo) with 74% >.>

Trump was at 53%.

Clinton/Stein/Warren were tied for last at 2%.

Strangely enough, Obama/Biden were on the quiz, and they showed 10% each (2nd to last).
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-08-28 16:20:57
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#legalizeit #420blazeit #based
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2016-08-28 16:42:26
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Arizona's putting recreational legalization on the ballot this year... Magnuss' gonna get blaaaaaazeeeeed...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-28 16:45:59
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Bismarck.Magnuss said: »
Magnuss' gonna get blaaaaaazeeeeed
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By Ramyrez 2016-08-29 12:33:58
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When Trump calls for a religious test for Muslims entering the country; questions the faith of Hillary Clinton, President Obama and Mitt Romney; and demonizes undocumented immigrants as “rapists,” it’s a reminder of the ugly nativism that Catholics once faced.


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It's an interesting take. One I honestly never considered consciously, but it makes perfect sense as to why I feel his immigration platform is so revolting, and it does echo things I've said before in the past.

Just never really would have attributed it to my Catholic upbringing, my past 20 years of lapsing notwithstanding.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-29 12:42:39
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Ramyrez said: »
It's an interesting take.
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For one thing, it's a MSN/WP article.

For another thing, it's a *** MSN/WP article.
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By Ramyrez 2016-08-29 12:44:28
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Okay, well, you say that.

But it doesn't necessarily make anything therein false.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-29 12:49:24
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Ramyrez said: »
Okay, well, you say that.

But it doesn't necessarily make anything therein false.
Heavily biased though.

I mean, if you sift out the partisan portions of the article, you may get a paragraph of incomplete sentences.
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By Ramyrez 2016-08-29 13:01:59
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Hey, look, I'm not really sure what precisely your problem with the specific article is, but you really need to remove your clear bias toward any and all domestic news agencies.

This isn't saying it's inherently good or bad that Trump is doing poorly with Catholics, it's merely saying he is and presenting what is at least a reasonably solid theory as to why many Catholics -- especially conservative white ones who may otherwise support him in many ways -- might be put off by him.

And I find it anecdotally significant to point out that on the route I take running, I pass a lot of Trump lawn signs in the neighborhood. I pass a lot of same-sized lawn signs with the Apostle's Creed on them.* I can think of only one house that has both signs up.


*There's some big Catholic thing going on, I haven't read the signs very closely, but it's some Italian festival associated with the local Catholic church, and they appear to have provided these signs to those of the congregation.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-29 13:07:58
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It's not the article in question. It's the source material.

I never said that the article is wrong. I'm saying that it's 80% fluff, 15% cotton, and 5% fact.

Which is what I meant when I said:

Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I mean, if you sift out the partisan portions of the article, you may get a paragraph of incomplete sentences.

I mean, the whole "story" can be summed up in 3 sentences:

Trump is doing poorly with Catholics. Here's the poll that shows that. Republicans and Democrats have split the Catholic vote evenly among the last 5 elections.

That's it. That's the whole article in a nutshell. Instead of the 5000 word essay, that's all the article tells us.

Again, I never questioned the article's point, I questioned the structure of the article.

I mean, MSN and WP are notorious of giving a 3 paragraph "news story" on Clinton and Clinton Foundation investigations, but make anything about Trump last forever, as long as it is negative.
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By Ramyrez 2016-08-29 13:19:51
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Well that's why I always liked to stick to the good old-fashioned inverted pyramid myself.

I'm not a fan of the way facts get spread about in articles these days, but it is a business and they've got to get eyeballs on their sites if they want to stay in business.

I don't particularly appreciate the way news gets disseminated anymore, but "fluff" has always been there in news. At least in this case it's pertinent fluff.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-08-29 13:28:16
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So they took the basic premise of Trump's poor performance with Catholics and expanded upon it with silly "details" and "historical context"? So bias.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-29 13:43:11
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Ramyrez said: »
Well that's why I always liked to stick to the good old-fashioned inverted pyramid myself.

I'm not a fan of the way facts get spread about in articles these days, but it is a business and they've got to get eyeballs on their sites if they want to stay in business.

I don't particularly appreciate the way news gets disseminated anymore, but "fluff" has always been there in news. At least in this case it's pertinent fluff.
I don't disagree with you on any of that, I think that the level of "fluff" in today's news stories are too great.

I blame the 24/7 news media.

Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
So they took the basic premise of Trump's poor performance with Catholics and expanded upon it with silly "details" and "historical context"? So bias.
Shoo, go away, the adults are talking.

Go outside and play with your little friends.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-29 17:06:53
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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I mean, MSN and WP are notorious of giving a 3 paragraph "news story" on Clinton and Clinton Foundation investigations, but make anything about Trump last forever, as long as it is negative.
King, that isn't only the WaPo (where the article origanated) its ALL news.

If they only reported the facts Jax, journalism wouldn't be a field.

And EVERY piece of sports news is FAR worse.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-29 17:50:10
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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I mean, MSN and WP are notorious of giving a 3 paragraph "news story" on Clinton and Clinton Foundation investigations, but make anything about Trump last forever, as long as it is negative.
King, that isn't only the WaPo (where the article origanated) its ALL news.

If they only reported the facts Jax, journalism wouldn't be a field.

And EVERY piece of sports news is FAR worse.
You are correct, most news media only gives summary paragraphs for Clinton and her scandals, but they give pages long fluff articles for anything involved with Trump.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-29 20:21:32
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You are correct, most news media only gives summary paragraphs for Clinton and her scandals, but they give pages long fluff articles for anything involved with Trump.
I do believe I posted a HuffPo link in the Hillary thread that gives the lie to that statement.

Actually the left leaning press gives more real negatives on Hillary than the right leaning press.

The right leaning press is more into conspiracy theories than reality.

/coughs
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-08-29 20:44:03
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
I do believe I posted a HuffPo link in the Hillary thread that gives the lie to that statement.
Are you talking about that HuffPost article where they are deflecting the AP criticism away to "Well, everyone in Washington is corrupt, nothing you can do about it"?

That's hardly a Clinton attack article.

Garuda.Chanti said: »
Actually the left leaning press gives more real negatives on Hillary than the right leaning press.


Garuda.Chanti said: »
The right leaning press is more into conspiracy theories than reality.
Double the fun!

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By Leviathan.Andret 2016-08-29 22:12:28
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Left Liberal.


Hmm... Obama 63% with 70% from economic, Social 55%. Tim Kane #2 and Hilary #3 53% with 50% economic and Social 55% - same. Obama is the highest in economic.

Trump 3% with 5% economic and 0% Social.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-30 09:30:41
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By Ramyrez 2016-08-30 09:36:24
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Garuda.Chanti said: »

Chanti, quit clowning around.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-08-30 10:13:09
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Tests are always very fun to me so..

did phylosophy, 2016 elections and past presidents:
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By Valefor.Rawry 2016-08-30 10:29:36
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Ah right, I forgot that Rooks sucks big balls and spoilers are foreverbroken.
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By Ramyrez 2016-08-30 10:35:43
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Valefor.Rawry said: »
Ah right, I forgot that Rooks sucks big balls and spoilers are foreverbroken.

Like our quizzes!
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