Cerberus.Kodaijin said: »
Endoq, cant tell if youre serious or sarcastic.
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Black vs White: Oppression or Master Plan?
100% serious crap! Paged! >___< Odin.Godofgods said: » But aside from it being fact; it it rly that hard to believe? Its still the same today. Government vs people/person. Government has failed us but we do nothing about it. Congress this year had a 9% approval rating, yet none were in danger of losing re-election. Voter turn out was the lowest since WWII at 36.4% of the eligible voter population. No one will get off there couch and even try to do something about it. - Ferguson; guy gets shot and there are mass riots all over town and ppl out in force protesting all across the country. The idea of the individual has always be the calling card in this country. And as a results, that's what gets publicized. which does bring up a point that's annoyed me for a long time. Off topic, but actually important. I think of this any time i hear any of the bull*** ppl tell themselves to justify not voting. For the 2012 presidential elections, roughly 235,248,000 were eligible to vote. 129,085,403 ppl actually did. that's 54.87% of them. Usually the two party candidates are fairly close to each other. with in 5%~ or so depending on the election. So assuming a base of 50% votes for each side, that would give the politicians 64,542,701.5 each. Ill be generous and say 64,542,702. so near 64,542,702 votes for the party politician. and near 106,162,597 ppl that said there vote wouldn't change anything. Get the point yet? 61% of those that didn't vote would be equal to the winning party. Numerically, 'those that don't matter' could throw everyone out of office in time. Even if they started small and merely put one guy in to presidency whose only reason is to make it where every vote truly truly matters instead of the broken system we have today. Even if that guy did everything else for himself, he probably still wouldn't be as bad as the last few presidents we've had. And then you'd have a basis for getting the rest of them out of office. And thats a random rant off the top of my sleep deprived head. Im sure someone could come up with a lot better. But it does go back to the point that ppl wont get off there couch for government ideals. Not voting is American as apple pie.
That is why we are subjected to videos such as: YouTube Video Placeholder white on black crime is typically labeled as racism, but black on white crime is not usually talked about because it doesn't push the agenda that the media wants, and on top of that it is worse. While the numbers MAY be less, the reasons are worse, most white on black crime is straight hate crime, the perpetrator feels they are so victimized and justified that they need to seek revenge. Ferguson is a prime example of this. Even if its not revenge for themself then it is revenge for there 'history' or 'people as a whole'
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Well I'm a liberal so everything to me is racist ! Even discussing racism is well...racist.
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Jetackuu said: » It was about more than slaves... But it could basically be boiled down to the rich white man getting the poor white man to fight it's battles for them, as they were losing their easy money. I mean after all they propped up the poor white man against the blacks by creating the racism as a divide, when they were all treated the same and about had enough of it, and it's been an ongoing process since then. There's been a centuries long class warfare in the states, and the racism is just a byproduct of that, it's sad to say. edit: but that's just one perspective, I've seen others that have merit as well, but the *** up thing is that a lot of the ***we're still dealing with today. Class warfare surrounding making a living off what? Oh right, slavery. Cmon dudes, you're doing alot of gymnastics to get to the point that the Civil War was primarily about profiting off human beings spun for the masses in a variety of clever ways. States rights to charter one's destiny as a slave state, God's gift to whites in a perpetual underclass, sticking it to the bullies in the North or just some dude trying to feed his family by keeping the slaves in line. All of it roots back to that ideological split and the ability to own human beings. Slaves were pretty valuable so they could be compared to cars/houses in our day. Looking at it from that perspective you can kinda wrap your head around why people were willing to fight for that. fonewear said: » What about Civil War reenactment ? Is that racist ? *** awesome is what they are. Seriously though, I love historical reenactments.
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fonewear said: » Not voting is American as apple pie. That is why we are subjected to videos such as: YouTube Video Placeholder lol whatever gets people to the polls I guess, even if they are uninformed voters. It's good to do your research, but we can work on that later, i just want people to vote. fonewear said: » Not voting is American as apple pie. Obama was actually addressing this recently and brought up that there are people in the world that still fight and die for the right to vote and many of us take that right for granted. If everyone did get out to vote though the system would most likely just be overwhelmed. Some people here missed out because we had an issue with the judges set up to monitor the voting. We had robo calls going out to all the judges in IL telling them that they might be in violation and if they show up that they could potentially be prosecuted and the like which lead to a record amount of them not showing up and they didn't have enough backups and this cause big delays and people just ended up having to go whether it was for work or something else. Lakshmi.Flavin said: » fonewear said: » Not voting is American as apple pie. Obama was actually addressing this recently and brought up that there are people in the world that still fight and die for the right to vote and many of us take that right for granted. If everyone did get out to vote though the system would most likely just be overwhelmed. Some people here missed out because we had an issue with the judges set up to monitor the voting. We had robo calls going out to all the judges in IL telling them that they might be in violation and if they show up that they could potentially be prosecuted and the like which lead to a record amount of them not showing up and they didn't have enough backups and this cause big delays and people just ended up having to go whether it was for work or something else. when americans couldnt vote, we fought hard to get the right, now that we have the right to vote, people dont care.
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Know what I call non-voters?
>_> Idiots. <_< Honestly, the only elections I'm trying not to participate in are the local races because I know literally nothing about the candidates and pulling the lever on people I dunno is just a bad idea. Further, voting for judges gets me the same way. Who the *** are these people? What the *** do they stand for? I dunno. Blank. Zackan said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » fonewear said: » Not voting is American as apple pie. Obama was actually addressing this recently and brought up that there are people in the world that still fight and die for the right to vote and many of us take that right for granted. If everyone did get out to vote though the system would most likely just be overwhelmed. Some people here missed out because we had an issue with the judges set up to monitor the voting. We had robo calls going out to all the judges in IL telling them that they might be in violation and if they show up that they could potentially be prosecuted and the like which lead to a record amount of them not showing up and they didn't have enough backups and this cause big delays and people just ended up having to go whether it was for work or something else. when americans couldnt vote, we fought hard to get the right, now that we have the right to vote, people dont care. complacency + stupidity = america today' The real reason to vote. So you can wear an obnoxious sticker saying I voted today.
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Zackan said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » fonewear said: » Not voting is American as apple pie. Obama was actually addressing this recently and brought up that there are people in the world that still fight and die for the right to vote and many of us take that right for granted. If everyone did get out to vote though the system would most likely just be overwhelmed. Some people here missed out because we had an issue with the judges set up to monitor the voting. We had robo calls going out to all the judges in IL telling them that they might be in violation and if they show up that they could potentially be prosecuted and the like which lead to a record amount of them not showing up and they didn't have enough backups and this cause big delays and people just ended up having to go whether it was for work or something else. when americans couldnt vote, we fought hard to get the right, now that we have the right to vote, people dont care. Plus many people are just comfortable with where they are so they don't seek to change anything. fonewear said: » The real reason to vote. So you can wear an obnoxious sticker saying I voted today. What are you? A fossil? You get to spam Facebook with iVoted messages. Rub that ***all up in Conservative grannypants' face and make passive-aggressive statements about your own politics. "I feel bad for all those people who chose killing babies to God's will. God is always watching. Jesus didn't kill us when he should have. Read your BIBLE and you'll see the truth. Have blessed day in the soothing rays of GODS light." "Some of you out there, I won't say who, choose to take the lives of animals for your own selfish reasons. I'm glad Candidate X sees you for the charlatans you are." Jetackuu said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Except Brown and Garner were killed by policemen in areas where racial tensions between police and the public are high. It's tragic when any innocent is murdered, but summing up the recent events and media attention as black v white is incredibly reductionist. It's being over portrayed in the media. Not saying there isn't an issue, but the crap is being fabricated beyond what it is. At least they got actual white people this time, instead of with Zimmerman. Ashley Marie Scott - murdered by her husband (who was black), husband is awaiting trial Kevin Quick - murdered by four black gang members, all are facing life in prison Key differences that are being ignored to push the false equivalency of b-b-b-b-but white people. (disclaimer: my rant is not really directed at you) Lakshmi.Flavin said: » These days it feels more like a sense of defeat is in the air rather than not caring. I always hear a lot more of the "my vote won't change anything" than "I don't care". Odin.Godofgods said: » so near 64,542,702 votes for the party politician. and near 106,162,597 ppl that said there vote wouldn't change anything. Its kinda scary how easily the non-voters could change everything with that much of a lead in the numbers... They could pick anyone they wanted and could put them in. Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » fonewear said: » The real reason to vote. So you can wear an obnoxious sticker saying I voted today. What are you? A fossil? You get to spam Facebook with iVoted messages. Rub that ***all up in Conservative grannypants' face and make passive-aggressive statements about your own politics. "I feel bad for all those people who chose killing babies to God's will." "Some of you out there, I won't say who, choose to take the lives of animals for your own selfish reasons. I'm glad Candidate X sees you for the charlatans you are." Yea I don't know what Facebook is. I'm not hip.  Odin.Godofgods said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » These days it feels more like a sense of defeat is in the air rather than not caring. I always hear a lot more of the "my vote won't change anything" than "I don't care". Odin.Godofgods said: » so near 64,542,702 votes for the party politician. and near 106,162,597 ppl that said there vote wouldn't change anything. Its kinda scary how easily the non-voters could change everything with that much of a lead in the numbers... They could pick anyone they wanted and could put them in. heck, put mike rowe in. At least you no hes not afraid to get his hands dirty. Odin.Godofgods said: » Zackan said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » fonewear said: » Not voting is American as apple pie. Obama was actually addressing this recently and brought up that there are people in the world that still fight and die for the right to vote and many of us take that right for granted. If everyone did get out to vote though the system would most likely just be overwhelmed. Some people here missed out because we had an issue with the judges set up to monitor the voting. We had robo calls going out to all the judges in IL telling them that they might be in violation and if they show up that they could potentially be prosecuted and the like which lead to a record amount of them not showing up and they didn't have enough backups and this cause big delays and people just ended up having to go whether it was for work or something else. when americans couldnt vote, we fought hard to get the right, now that we have the right to vote, people dont care. complacency + stupidity = america today' Voting is the end all be all. If we think that the majority of our population is stupid then what are we doing to change that? do we want to? Does it get us anywhere to call them stupid? What's funny to me also is that people here have even promoted the idea that dumb people shouldn't even be allowed to vote. Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Know what I call non-voters? >_> Idiots. <_< Honestly, the only elections I'm trying not to participate in are the local races because I know literally nothing about the candidates and pulling the lever on people I dunno is just a bad idea. Further, voting for judges gets me the same way. Who the *** are these people? What the *** do they stand for? I dunno. Blank. This honestly is the exact OPPOSITE attitude you should have. If we talk about 'my vote doesn't matter' then that phrase somewhat can hold true in national elections. The Local Elections DO MATTER the most of any elections. A typical National election is won by like a million votes or more. A typical Local election is won by most of the time less than 100 votes, alot of times it comes down to less than 10-20 votes. ALL POLITICS STARTS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. Local elections are the ones you SHOULD care the MOST about! These also have the most direct impact on your life on an every day basis. Honestly your rep or senator are there to do a job, and represent your district or state as a whole. It is not there job to care about you individually. Meanwhile your council man, your superintendant, the mayor, your police chief... all these can have an impact on your day to day. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Jetackuu said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Except Brown and Garner were killed by policemen in areas where racial tensions between police and the public are high. It's tragic when any innocent is murdered, but summing up the recent events and media attention as black v white is incredibly reductionist. It's being over portrayed in the media. Not saying there isn't an issue, but the crap is being fabricated beyond what it is. At least they got actual white people this time, instead of with Zimmerman. Ashley Marie Scott - murdered by her husband (who was black), husband is awaiting trial Kevin Quick - murdered by four black gang members, all are facing life in prison Key differences that are being ignored to push the false equivalency of b-b-b-b-but white people. (disclaimer: my rant is not really directed at you) Just one question, to the bold: are you asserting that some of the other cases we discussed, their history of substance abuse wasn't relevant? Lakshmi.Flavin said: » Odin.Godofgods said: » Zackan said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » fonewear said: » Not voting is American as apple pie. Obama was actually addressing this recently and brought up that there are people in the world that still fight and die for the right to vote and many of us take that right for granted. If everyone did get out to vote though the system would most likely just be overwhelmed. Some people here missed out because we had an issue with the judges set up to monitor the voting. We had robo calls going out to all the judges in IL telling them that they might be in violation and if they show up that they could potentially be prosecuted and the like which lead to a record amount of them not showing up and they didn't have enough backups and this cause big delays and people just ended up having to go whether it was for work or something else. when americans couldnt vote, we fought hard to get the right, now that we have the right to vote, people dont care. complacency + stupidity = america today' Voting is the end all be all. If we think that the majority of our population is stupid then what are we doing to change that? do we want to? Does it get us anywhere to call them stupid? What's funny to me also is that people here have even promoted the idea that dumb people shouldn't even be allowed to vote. theres nothing wrong with voting for the status quo if you honestly believe it is not broken, not everything needs to change. Change vs No change, both are valuable positions. not everything is broken, sure alot is, but not everything. Odin.Godofgods said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » These days it feels more like a sense of defeat is in the air rather than not caring. I always hear a lot more of the "my vote won't change anything" than "I don't care". Odin.Godofgods said: » so near 64,542,702 votes for the party politician. and near 106,162,597 ppl that said there vote wouldn't change anything. Its kinda scary how easily the non-voters could change everything with that much of a lead in the numbers... They could pick anyone they wanted and could put them in. Even if there was a 100% voter turn out it doesn't necassarily mean that a third party would win out over the two main parties. You could make that argument now that if the people that vote now just chose to go for someone else. Don't blame me I voted for Kodos.
Twitter is definitely weird and scary.
Kids these days back in my day we didn't have high speed internet I tells ya ! Zackan said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » Odin.Godofgods said: » Zackan said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » fonewear said: » Not voting is American as apple pie. Obama was actually addressing this recently and brought up that there are people in the world that still fight and die for the right to vote and many of us take that right for granted. If everyone did get out to vote though the system would most likely just be overwhelmed. Some people here missed out because we had an issue with the judges set up to monitor the voting. We had robo calls going out to all the judges in IL telling them that they might be in violation and if they show up that they could potentially be prosecuted and the like which lead to a record amount of them not showing up and they didn't have enough backups and this cause big delays and people just ended up having to go whether it was for work or something else. when americans couldnt vote, we fought hard to get the right, now that we have the right to vote, people dont care. complacency + stupidity = america today' Voting is the end all be all. If we think that the majority of our population is stupid then what are we doing to change that? do we want to? Does it get us anywhere to call them stupid? What's funny to me also is that people here have even promoted the idea that dumb people shouldn't even be allowed to vote. theres nothing wrong with voting for the status quo if you honestly believe it is not broken, not everything needs to change. Change vs No change, both are valuable positions. not everything is broken, sure alot is, but not everything. |
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