Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
The cycle is now complete.
that video makes me nostalgic for money...
remember money? yeah... it was great.....
St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven Or Hell, Duel 1! Let's Rock!
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St. Louis, Missouri Vs. The Police: Heaven or Hell, Duel 1! Let's rock!
that video makes me nostalgic for money... remember money? yeah... it was great.....
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » The cycle is now complete. that video makes me nostalgic for money... remember money? yeah... it was great..... Since this is a short-term payday loan, I require an interest rate of 800%.
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Hopefully we can squeeze another 10 years fighting ISIS. I want to be baptized by the church of war profiteering.
They've got hella good steaks and blow. Vegan menus at the peace rallies get boring quick.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » Since this is a short-term payday loan, I require an interest rate of 800%. you rookie! tell em' 0% for six months! then 800% after that
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My Favorite is when Illinois banned high(Hyper more like) interest loans covering a period of 120 days or fewer, then Kwik Kash started offering 121day lending periods.
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Odin.Zicdeh said: » My Favorite is when Illinois banned high(Hyper more like) interest loans covering a period of 120 days or fewer, then Kwik Kash started offering 121day lending periods. Wasn't there some law that capped interest at or below credit card rates for any short-term unsecured loan so all the payday lenders either became title loaners or re-registered as equity lenders? St. Louis...
Quote: Another St. Louis cop has been suspended over making ignorant and threatening statements in public. Glendale Police Department Officer Matthew Pappert, who helped patrol the racially charged riots in Ferguson, Mo., was taken off the job after making contemptuous remarks on Facebook about the demonstrators. "These protesters should have been put down like a rabid dog the first night," he posted on his social media page, according to Agence France-Presse. In another post, he wrote, "I'm sick of these protesters. You are a burden on society and a blight on the community." The comments have since been removed. Glendale, another St. Louis suburb, sent officers to reinforce Ferguson officers when riots broke out Aug. 9 following the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown by white officer Darren Wilson. Pappert also referred to the Boston Marathon bombing with a post that read, "Where is a Muslim with a backpack when you need him?" The Glendale Police Department issued a statement saying the officer was suspended on Friday. Journalists covering the demonstrations said Pappert had threatened them with his nightstick and seemed prepared to swing, a photographer told AFP. Also on Friday, a St. Louis County officer was relieved of duty after video of him making sexist and racist comments went viral. Officer Dan Page was captured referring to President Obama as "an undocumented president" and stated "you run from me, you're gonna die tired." On Wednesday, an officer from suburban St. Ann was suspended after being caught on video screaming at journalists and threatening to kill them. When asked for his name, Officer Ray Alberts snarled, "go f--- yourself." Odin.Jassik said: » Odin.Zicdeh said: » My Favorite is when Illinois banned high(Hyper more like) interest loans covering a period of 120 days or fewer, then Kwik Kash started offering 121day lending periods. Wasn't there some law that capped interest at or below credit card rates for any short-term unsecured loan so all the payday lenders either became title loaners or re-registered as equity lenders? Leviathan.Chaosx said: » St. Louis... Quote: Another St. Louis cop has been suspended over making ignorant and threatening statements in public. Glendale Police Department Officer Matthew Pappert, who helped patrol the racially charged riots in Ferguson, Mo., was taken off the job after making contemptuous remarks on Facebook about the demonstrators. "These protesters should have been put down like a rabid dog the first night," he posted on his social media page, according to Agence France-Presse. In another post, he wrote, "I'm sick of these protesters. You are a burden on society and a blight on the community." The comments have since been removed. Glendale, another St. Louis suburb, sent officers to reinforce Ferguson officers when riots broke out Aug. 9 following the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown by white officer Darren Wilson. Pappert also referred to the Boston Marathon bombing with a post that read, "Where is a Muslim with a backpack when you need him?" The Glendale Police Department issued a statement saying the officer was suspended on Friday. Journalists covering the demonstrations said Pappert had threatened them with his nightstick and seemed prepared to swing, a photographer told AFP. Also on Friday, a St. Louis County officer was relieved of duty after video of him making sexist and racist comments went viral. Officer Dan Page was captured referring to President Obama as "an undocumented president" and stated "you run from me, you're gonna die tired." On Wednesday, an officer from suburban St. Ann was suspended after being caught on video screaming at journalists and threatening to kill them. When asked for his name, Officer Ray Alberts snarled, "go f--- yourself." Leviathan.Chaosx said: » St. Louis... Quote: Another St. Louis cop has been suspended over making ignorant and threatening statements in public. Glendale Police Department Officer Matthew Pappert, who helped patrol the racially charged riots in Ferguson, Mo., was taken off the job after making contemptuous remarks on Facebook about the demonstrators. "These protesters should have been put down like a rabid dog the first night," he posted on his social media page, according to Agence France-Presse. In another post, he wrote, "I'm sick of these protesters. You are a burden on society and a blight on the community." The comments have since been removed. Glendale, another St. Louis suburb, sent officers to reinforce Ferguson officers when riots broke out Aug. 9 following the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown by white officer Darren Wilson. Pappert also referred to the Boston Marathon bombing with a post that read, "Where is a Muslim with a backpack when you need him?" The Glendale Police Department issued a statement saying the officer was suspended on Friday. Journalists covering the demonstrations said Pappert had threatened them with his nightstick and seemed prepared to swing, a photographer told AFP. Also on Friday, a St. Louis County officer was relieved of duty after video of him making sexist and racist comments went viral. Officer Dan Page was captured referring to President Obama as "an undocumented president" and stated "you run from me, you're gonna die tired." On Wednesday, an officer from suburban St. Ann was suspended after being caught on video screaming at journalists and threatening to kill them. When asked for his name, Officer Ray Alberts snarled, "go f--- yourself." Police like these make the entire forces of St. Louis look just as bad, if not worse, for inciting and perpetuating the violent reactions. Regardless of which side you support, this whole mess is one big global black eye on America. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » St. Louis... Quote: Another St. Louis cop has been suspended over making ignorant and threatening statements in public. Glendale Police Department Officer Matthew Pappert, who helped patrol the racially charged riots in Ferguson, Mo., was taken off the job after making contemptuous remarks on Facebook about the demonstrators. "These protesters should have been put down like a rabid dog the first night," he posted on his social media page, according to Agence France-Presse. In another post, he wrote, "I'm sick of these protesters. You are a burden on society and a blight on the community." The comments have since been removed. Glendale, another St. Louis suburb, sent officers to reinforce Ferguson officers when riots broke out Aug. 9 following the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown by white officer Darren Wilson. Pappert also referred to the Boston Marathon bombing with a post that read, "Where is a Muslim with a backpack when you need him?" The Glendale Police Department issued a statement saying the officer was suspended on Friday. Journalists covering the demonstrations said Pappert had threatened them with his nightstick and seemed prepared to swing, a photographer told AFP. Also on Friday, a St. Louis County officer was relieved of duty after video of him making sexist and racist comments went viral. Officer Dan Page was captured referring to President Obama as "an undocumented president" and stated "you run from me, you're gonna die tired." On Wednesday, an officer from suburban St. Ann was suspended after being caught on video screaming at journalists and threatening to kill them. When asked for his name, Officer Ray Alberts snarled, "go f--- yourself."
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 Jon Corzine visits Ferguson. Shiva.Nikolce said: » Came across this today.
It is on cracked so the humor can be annoying, but everything is heavily cited. There are a few graphic videos (a shooting caught on camera and protestor/cop interactions). 7 Important Details Nobody Mentions About Ferguson Quote: #7. The Police Never Filed an Incident Report for the Shooting of Michael Brown #6. A Protester Was Shot in the Head With a Real Bullet (and the Police Took the Bullet [and Now That Bullet Is Missing]) #5. The St. Louis Cops Who Shot That Guy With the Knife Last Week Also Kind of Lied About It #4. In General, the Ferguson and St. Louis Police Have Been -- Pardon My F***-- F***ing Liars #3. These Protests Are Not Riots #2. No, Not All Cops Are Bad, But... #1. Ferguson Can't, And Shouldn't, Go Back To Normal Bahamut.Kara said: » Came across this today. It is on cracked so the humor can be annoying, but everything is heavily cited. There are a few graphic videos (a shooting caught on camera and protestor/cop interactions). 7 Important Details Nobody Mentions About Ferguson Quote: #7. The Police Never Filed an Incident Report for the Shooting of Michael Brown #6. A Protester Was Shot in the Head With a Real Bullet (and the Police Took the Bullet [and Now That Bullet Is Missing]) #5. The St. Louis Cops Who Shot That Guy With the Knife Last Week Also Kind of Lied About It #4. In General, the Ferguson and St. Louis Police Have Been -- Pardon My F***-- F***ing Liars #3. These Protests Are Not Riots #2. No, Not All Cops Are Bad, But... #1. Ferguson Can't, And Shouldn't, Go Back To Normal (the link links back to this thread if you don't include the http://) Has anyone thought for a moment about the cause behind corrupt officers? We can say pay, which isn't all that great, and admittedly before you go to this site, I googled average pay in America and went to a site that appears to be somewhat legit
Pay scale Pay comes into the equation when you consider that they (departments) need a certain amount of officers to cover a given area and only have $X amount to fund salaries, equipment, utilities, and incidentals (gotta drop duke some times). It's not the crappy pay for risking your life when conducting a traffic stop that causes officers to become corrupt, it's the lack of quality to hire from due to the salary given for risking your life when conducting a traffic stop. Before you make some snide *** comment, really think on this: how much money would be the minimum amount you'd be willing to take a year to take the large amount of ***we take day in day out. I bet it would be more than $45,000. If you want quality in police, then next time there's a proposal to raise sales taxes by 0.025% (that's a quarter of a penny) you might want to check YES on the ballot. That small increase could get a better quality of applicants for your department. Oh, and before I forget, Ferguson PD should be shut down, everyone from Chief down fired and/or charged with felonies, and the city needs to hire an entirely new department. Edit: I make $10,000 less than the national average after 12 years and still never get tempted to take money from evidence. Voren said: » If you want quality in police, then next time there's a proposal to raise sales taxes by 0.025% (that's a quarter of a penny) you might want to check YES on the ballot. That small increase could get a better quality of applicants for your department. I prefer bustin their balls in court instead. Leviathan.Xsoahc said: » Voren said: » If you want quality in police, then next time there's a proposal to raise sales taxes by 0.025% (that's a quarter of a penny) you might want to check YES on the ballot. That small increase could get a better quality of applicants for your department. I prefer bustin their balls in court instead. Spoken like a true forward thinker. Voren said: » Leviathan.Xsoahc said: » Voren said: » If you want quality in police, then next time there's a proposal to raise sales taxes by 0.025% (that's a quarter of a penny) you might want to check YES on the ballot. That small increase could get a better quality of applicants for your department. I prefer bustin their balls in court instead. Spoken like a true forward thinker. Voren said: » Has anyone thought for a moment about the cause behind corrupt officers? We can say pay, which isn't all that great, and admittedly before you go to this site, I googled average pay in America and went to a site that appears to be somewhat legit Pay scale Pay comes into the equation when you consider that they (departments) need a certain amount of officers to cover a given area and only have $X amount to fund salaries, equipment, utilities, and incidentals (gotta drop duke some times). It's not the crappy pay for risking your life when conducting a traffic stop that causes officers to become corrupt, it's the lack of quality to hire from due to the salary given for risking your life when conducting a traffic stop. Before you make some snide *** comment, really think on this: how much money would be the minimum amount you'd be willing to take a year to take the large amount of ***we take day in day out. I bet it would be more than $45,000. If you want quality in police, then next time there's a proposal to raise sales taxes by 0.025% (that's a quarter of a penny) you might want to check YES on the ballot. That small increase could get a better quality of applicants for your department. If you want better quality individuals on staff, then you need to stop hiring crappy applicants. Which often means leaving a position open. Sure, offering more money may increase the number of people applying. But it isn't necessarily going to change the ratio. Identifying good people isn't easy. It gets even more difficult in situtations where there may not be an interest in hiring ethical employees. Voren said: » Edit: I make $10,000 less than the national average after 12 years and still never get tempted to take money from evidence. That says more about your person than the salary that you make. In many cases, people with "flexible ethics" will have them regardless of how much money they make. You can look at pay scales for enlisted military service, or teachers in comparison, and judge how police are paid in relation to those.
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Voren said: » Leviathan.Xsoahc said: » Voren said: » If you want quality in police, then next time there's a proposal to raise sales taxes by 0.025% (that's a quarter of a penny) you might want to check YES on the ballot. That small increase could get a better quality of applicants for your department. I prefer bustin their balls in court instead. Spoken like a true forward thinker. I hate to agree with him, but you said yourself, you aren't tempted to keep cash seized in evidence or pull any of the power stunts that a lot of police do, despite being paid less than most of them. The way I see it, if monetary gain factors into whether a person upholds the oaths they've taken, their integrity is questionable at best. You would treat those people the same way you treat an insolent child; no desert until you finish your broccoli. When they can get through a year without breaking into the wrong house or harassing people in public spaces or shooting unarmed teenagers, then we can talk about wages. I just want to be clear, I see no reason why police should be paid about the same money as laborers or low level management, being a police officer is no picnic, but as long as there is an opportunity to leverage some reforms and give good cops a reason to disavow the bad and break the blue line when it's warranted, I think we should take it.
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Bahamut.Milamber said: » You can look at pay scales for enlisted military service, or teachers in comparison, and judge how police are paid in relation to those. Challenge accepted: Here's the national average for teacher's salaries in America. Their pensions are often better than police depending upon which retirement system a department uses. Teacher unions can go on strike with little to no repercussions, whereas if an officer goes on strike it's a misdemeanor offense, again only speaking of Oklahoma on that one. Hard to see teachers winning out, but there's that nice summer break, or opportunity to earn extra money during the summer months (that salary is for the school year). Now for military pay scales which admittedly suck, but there's other benefits that come along with it. Housing on base is free last time I checked, as well as a monthly allowance given for living off base if you have dependents or you can live on base free and still receive a stipend to help provide for dependents. There's also medical, which I know isn't the world's most comfortable, but it's free on base for enlisted and dependents. Hazard Duty Incentive Pay (HDIP) is almost a joke, but hey it's something officers don't get. Nor do we get a sign on bonus, or college tuition paid for, or tax breaks that come from service, should I continue? Police get free chik-fil-a in most areas...so....yeah. My argument isn't for my pay, which is nice, but way too self serving. I'm tired of working along side morons that I wouldn't trust with a water gun let alone a Glock or M4. God forbid they catch primary on a homicide as I can just imagine the amount of evidence that gets overlooked or destroyed, or the interrogation that gets the case tossed because someone thinks a Miranda warning is some sort of euphemism for a menstrual cycle. Odin.Jassik said: » as long as there is an opportunity to leverage some reforms and give good cops a reason to disavow the bad and break the blue line when it's warranted, I think we should take it. Agreed Voren said: » I'm tired of working along side morons that I wouldn't trust with a water gun let alone a Glock or M4. God forbid they catch primary on a homicide as I can just imagine the amount of evidence that gets overlooked or destroyed, or the interrogation that gets the case tossed because someone thinks a Miranda warning is some sort of euphemism for a menstrual cycle. Part of what your management should be doing is either weeding those people out, or making sure they are in positions where their particular (in)competencies limit their potential to do damage, either directly or indirectly. If you see activities or attitudes which you consider inappropriate with regards to the duties/responsibilities you have, or if you don't think you can rely on them or their judgement in particular situations, you need to bring it up with your management. That relies way too heavily on the all too common oxymoron that is management.
I think being incompetent is a requirement for promotions in most organizations.
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