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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-07-31 13:44:29
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Breaking News: Boehner cancels border crisis vote, puts plan to do nothing in action.

Enjoy your 5 week break, make sure to put together a good game plan for suing Obama.
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By Jetackuu 2014-07-31 13:45:16
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Can we just starting suing the *** and the other republitards for not doing their jobs?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-07-31 13:46:22
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They literally did nothing, so now no complaining when Obama takes executive action.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-07-31 13:46:51
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Breaking News: Boehner cancels border crisis vote, puts plan to do nothing in action.

Enjoy your 5 week break, make sure to put together a good game plan for suing Obama.

"Congressional recess" shouldn't be words that exist.

You signed on for the job.

Do the *** job. ***.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-31 13:47:49
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Breaking News: Boehner cancels border crisis vote, puts plan to do nothing in action.

Enjoy your 5 week break, make sure to put together a good game plan for suing Obama.

"Congressional recess" shouldn't be words that exist.

You signed on for the job.

Do the *** job. ***.
I'm starting to read Ramyrez's comments in George Carlin's voice.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-07-31 13:53:37
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Neither side could agree with what to do, and the logical choice is to blame one, and not the other?

Must be nice to live in fairyland.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-07-31 13:54:25
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
They literally did nothing, so now no complaining when Obama takes executive action.

complaining is doing something!

just ask france and canada!
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-31 13:55:30
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
They literally did nothing, so now no complaining when Obama takes executive action.

complaining is doing something!

just ask france and canada!
Hey, we don't complain, we apologize, France surrenders.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-07-31 14:01:34
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Neither side could agree with what to do, and the logical choice is to blame one, and not the other?

Must be nice to live in fairyland.

A Republican bill failed in the Republican controlled House, yes, the Republicans are shouldering all of the blame. Welcome to the real world. Obama requested 3.7b, the GOP gave him nothing. Again, no complaining when he uses executive action.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-31 14:13:51
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
They literally did nothing, so now no complaining when Obama takes executive action.

Why do we even need three branches, amirite??
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-07-31 14:14:58
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
They literally did nothing, so now no complaining when Obama takes executive action.

Why do we even need three branches, amirite??
Why need any? Obama can handle it all on his own, right?
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By Altimaomega 2014-07-31 14:27:13
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Neither side could agree with what to do, and the logical choice is to blame one, and not the other?

Must be nice to live in fairyland.

A Republican bill failed in the Republican controlled House, yes, the Republicans are shouldering all of the blame. Welcome to the real world. Obama requested 3.7b, the GOP gave him nothing. Again, no complaining when he uses executive action.

Its amazing our country made it all the way to the year 2014 without any law that protects our borders. I guess all these illegal immigrants just found out.

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-01 17:50:40
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I was reading this article and I saw something that caught my eye:

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epublicans in the U.S. House of Representatives sought to patch over another deep rift and pass revised border security legislation on Friday, hoping to persuade voters they are acting to tackle the growing crisis over child migrants from Central America.

Tougher language in the twin bills would make it easier to deport migrant children, add money to deploy National Guard troops at the border with Mexico and largely reverse President Barack Obama's policy of deferring action against minors brought to the United States illegally by their parents.

The changes were intended to satisfy conservative House Republican lawmakers who withdrew their support on Thursday amid a revolt instigated by Senator Ted Cruz, the Tea Party firebrand from Texas. In an embarrassing defeat, House Speaker John Boehner canceled a vote on Thursday after support collapsed.

The revised bills are due to be considered by the House on Friday night. But even if they pass, they have virtually no chance of becoming law. The U.S. Senate is certain to ignore them after failing to advance its own $2.7 billion border funding measure.

Obama, calling the new House language "extreme and unworkable," vowed a veto on Friday.

With the border legislation still unfinished as Congress prepares to leave Washington for a five-week recess, Obama said he would shift funds from other accounts to pay for enhanced border security and the care and feeding of thousands of detained migrant children.

"I'm going to have to act alone because we don't have enough resources," Obama told reporters. "We've already been very clear. We've run out of money."

One of the House bills proposes $694 million in additional funding for border security and to care for children from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador who have flooded over the border in recent months. The latest version adds $35 million to reimburse states that deploy National Guard troops to secure the border.

The other bill aims to speed the return of children to their home countries while also reversing much of Obama's two-year-old policy that suspended deportation efforts against children brought to the United States illegally by their parents before mid-2007.

A key demand of many Republicans was to stop the administration from admitting child migrants into the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. Many Republicans blame that program for encouraging families in Central America to send unaccompanied minors on treacherous journeys to the U.S. border.

In a reversal, the measure would prohibit those who have already been given a reprieve from deportation from renewing their status when it expires after two years.

The revived House vote, expected on Friday evening, is largely aimed at aiding Republican lawmakers' re-election efforts by allowing them to claim that they acted to stop the flow of illegal immigrants, while Obama and Senate Democrats stood idle.
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This is the part that caught my attention:
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"I'm going to have to act alone because we don't have enough resources," Obama told reporters. "We've already been very clear. We've run out of money."

Does this mean the U.S. is officially broke now? Oh well time for a 5 week recess.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-01 18:18:11
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Yeah it looks like they are going to pass a bad bill just to try to save face and then blame Obama. Don't know when considering its already 7 pm over there. Here is 1/5th of what you asked for Obama, and we are going to take power away from you, and you are going to sign this, ok? And if you don't, everything is your fault.

Laughable, House republicans fighting with each other, fighting with Senate republicans, can't even agree to do nothing. Its going to be hilarious watching those GOP town hall meetings.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-01 19:01:09
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Wrong post!
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-01 19:32:01
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I give up on politics. Skynet for President 2016, promotion to Terrestrial Overlord in Q1 2017.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-01 20:15:05
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Yeah it looks like they are going to pass a bad bill just to try to save face and then blame Obama. Don't know when considering its already 7 pm over there. Here is 1/5th of what you asked for Obama, and we are going to take power away from you, and you are going to sign this, ok? And if you don't, everything is your fault.

Laughable, House republicans fighting with each other, fighting with Senate republicans, can't even agree to do nothing. Its going to be hilarious watching those GOP town hall meetings.
So, blame them for not doing anything, and blame them for doing something.

Why not just admit your biases and call it a day?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-01 20:23:40
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Nah, I will blame the House GOP for ignoring a border invasion for 3+ weeks, then finally taking it up on the last day before a 5 week recess, only to discover that they actually don't agree on anything and can't get anything done, despite the fact that they have had 3+ weeks to come to a consensus within their own party. And, I will be correct in doing so.
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By fonewear 2014-08-01 20:25:35
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Why talk about Republicans when we have serious issues at hand:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/13/hillary-clintons-hair-the_n_174856.html?utm_hp_ref=hillary-clinton#s18285

Her hairdo could impact the entire country. She must chose wisely...


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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-01 20:28:46
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
I give up on politics. Skynet for President 2016, promotion to Terrestrial Overlord in Q1 2017.

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By fonewear 2014-08-01 20:29:42
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I rather just chose the evil one. That is why I'm voting for Michelle Obama.


She has just as much experience as Hillary plus she wouldn't have to move !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-02 01:28:10
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It seems the House has passed the bill after all.

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Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives voted on Friday to crack down on Central American migrants, including unaccompanied children, who are flooding to the U.S. border with Mexico, as lawmakers passed a $694 million border security bill.

The 223-189 vote came one day after conservative Republicans balked at an earlier version of the measure, exposing a deep rift between Tea Party activists and more mainstream Republicans.

In passing the retooled bill, the Republican-led House ignored a veto threat from the White House. But with the Senate already on a five-week summer recess, this measure will advance no further at least until September.

"We couldn't go home (for recess) and not have a decision," said Representative Kay Granger of Texas, who helped draft the original bill.

Granger said the measure would serve as a marker for negotiations in September to resolve the humanitarian crisis that has seen nearly 60,000 children from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala arrive illegally since October to escape criminal drug gangs and poverty.

House Democrats complained that the legislation would too speedily return children to dangerous conditions in their home countries. President Barack Obama called the Republican bill "extreme" and "unworkable."

Later on Friday, the House also passed a separate bill reversing Obama's 2012 policy suspending deportations of some undocumented residents who were brought to the United States as children years ago by their parents.

The measure also would bar Obama from expanding this policy, possibly to parents of children who already qualify.

The tougher language in the twin bills would make it easier to deport migrant children and add money to deploy National Guard troops at the border with Mexico.

The changes were intended to satisfy conservative House Republican lawmakers who withdrew their support on Thursday amid a revolt instigated by Senator Ted Cruz, the Tea Party firebrand from Texas.

On Thursday, the Democratic-controlled Senate failed to advance its own $2.7 billion border funding bill, as Republicans lined up to stop it on a procedural vote.
U.S. House passes border-security funding bill to speed deportations
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-02 07:48:49
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Here's a story in which the headline caught my eye.

Poll: Foreign policy no longer Obama strong point

When was it ever his strong point?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-02 08:11:49
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fonewear said: »
Why talk about Republicans when we have serious issues at hand:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/13/hillary-clintons-hair-the_n_174856.html?utm_hp_ref=hillary-clinton#s18285

Her hairdo could impact the entire country. She must chose wisely...


Bad hair day with her finger on the button?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-02 19:29:27
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Here's a great piece:

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How expensive are those everyday low prices? How much do things really cost on that fast-food restaurant’s dollar menu? The answer is more than you think, but maybe not for the reason you think.

The Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP, the current name for food stamps) is often thought of as something for the unemployed, though nothing could be further from the truth. Actually, 73 percent of those enrolled in the country’s major public benefits programs are from working families, just stuck in jobs whose paychecks don’t cover life’s basic necessities.

The United States now has the highest proportion of low-wage workers in the developed world, most of whom receive only the minimum wage (the federal standard is $7.25 an hour) and typically are capped by their employers well below 40 hours a week, so they won’t qualify for benefits. Hard work doesn’t always pay off. The math: even full-time work at $7.25 an hour only adds up to $290 a week. How do you live on that?

You don’t. You turn to food stamps and other forms of public assistance to make up the gap between minimum wage and a living wage. Which is just what large minimum-wage employers count on you doing.

Fast food workers claim public assistance at more than twice the rate of other employed people; McDonald’s workers alone receive $1.2 billion in federal assistance each year. About one out of every three retail workers gets public assistance. After analyzing Medicaid data, the Democratically led House Committee on Education and the Workforce estimated a single 300-person Wal-Mart in Wisconsin costs taxpayers $5,815 per associate in public assistance paid. Overall, American taxpayers subsidize the minimum wage with $7 billion in public assistance, which is what makes it possible for huge companies to get away with paying people so little. Add in the taxes you’re paying, and there’s nothing on the dollar menu that actually costs only a dollar.

Why else do many large companies like food stamps? Because poverty is big business.

Public benefits are now a huge part of corporate profits. The CEO of Kraft admitted that the mac n’ cheese maker opposed food-stamp cuts because beneficiaries were “a big part of our audience.” One-sixth of Kraft’s revenues come from food-stamp purchases. Pepsi, Coke, and the grocery chain Kroger also lobbied against SNAP cuts, an indication of how much they rely on the money.

Products eligible for SNAP purchases are supposed to be limited to “healthy foods.” Yet lobbying by the soda industry keeps sugary drinks on the approved list, allowing companies like Coke and Pepsi to pull in $4 billion a year in SNAP money revenues. Yum Brands, the operator of KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut, tried unsuccessfully to convince lawmakers in several states to allow its restaurants to accept food stamps.

In a January 2014 filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Wal-Mart was oddly blunt about what SNAP cuts could do to its bottom line. Wal-Mart’s business risks, the filing said, include: “changes in the amount of payments made under the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Plan and other public assistance plans, [and] changes in the eligibility requirements of public assistance plans.”

How much profit does Wal-Mart make from public assistance? In one year, nine Wal-Mart Supercenters in Massachusetts received more than $33 million in SNAP dollars, more than four times the SNAP money spent at farmers’ markets nationwide. In two years, Wal-Mart received about half of the $1 billion in SNAP expenditures in Oklahoma. Overall, 18 percent of all food benefits money is spent at Wal-Mart. That’s about $14 billion.

Others also profit well from food stamps. Food stamps are distributed via Electronic Benefits Transfer or EBT (some recipients claim the acronym really means “Eat Better Tonight.”) JPMorgan Chase holds the contracts in half the United States to handle the transactions. In Florida, JPMorgan’s contract is worth $83 million, and in New York, it’s worth more than $112 million. Meanwhile, until recent changes, customer service for the JP Morgan EBT program was done via offshore call centers in India and Mexico who paid far below domestic wages.
Think everything on a dollar menu costs a dollar? Think again.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-02 19:40:19
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
I give up on politics. Skynet for President 2016, promotion to Terrestrial Overlord in Q1 2017.



Cthulhu isn't evil. It's indifferent. Kind of like a Black Hole, it's not actively trying to destroy everything with malicious intent, it's just a byproduct of it's existence.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-02 21:55:06
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Here's a great piece:

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How expensive are those everyday low prices? How much do things really cost on that fast-food restaurant’s dollar menu? The answer is more than you think, but maybe not for the reason you think.

The Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP, the current name for food stamps) is often thought of as something for the unemployed, though nothing could be further from the truth. Actually, 73 percent of those enrolled in the country’s major public benefits programs are from working families, just stuck in jobs whose paychecks don’t cover life’s basic necessities.

The United States now has the highest proportion of low-wage workers in the developed world, most of whom receive only the minimum wage (the federal standard is $7.25 an hour) and typically are capped by their employers well below 40 hours a week, so they won’t qualify for benefits. Hard work doesn’t always pay off. The math: even full-time work at $7.25 an hour only adds up to $290 a week. How do you live on that?

You don’t. You turn to food stamps and other forms of public assistance to make up the gap between minimum wage and a living wage. Which is just what large minimum-wage employers count on you doing.

Fast food workers claim public assistance at more than twice the rate of other employed people; McDonald’s workers alone receive $1.2 billion in federal assistance each year. About one out of every three retail workers gets public assistance. After analyzing Medicaid data, the Democratically led House Committee on Education and the Workforce estimated a single 300-person Wal-Mart in Wisconsin costs taxpayers $5,815 per associate in public assistance paid. Overall, American taxpayers subsidize the minimum wage with $7 billion in public assistance, which is what makes it possible for huge companies to get away with paying people so little. Add in the taxes you’re paying, and there’s nothing on the dollar menu that actually costs only a dollar.

Why else do many large companies like food stamps? Because poverty is big business.

Public benefits are now a huge part of corporate profits. The CEO of Kraft admitted that the mac n’ cheese maker opposed food-stamp cuts because beneficiaries were “a big part of our audience.” One-sixth of Kraft’s revenues come from food-stamp purchases. Pepsi, Coke, and the grocery chain Kroger also lobbied against SNAP cuts, an indication of how much they rely on the money.

Products eligible for SNAP purchases are supposed to be limited to “healthy foods.” Yet lobbying by the soda industry keeps sugary drinks on the approved list, allowing companies like Coke and Pepsi to pull in $4 billion a year in SNAP money revenues. Yum Brands, the operator of KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut, tried unsuccessfully to convince lawmakers in several states to allow its restaurants to accept food stamps.

In a January 2014 filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Wal-Mart was oddly blunt about what SNAP cuts could do to its bottom line. Wal-Mart’s business risks, the filing said, include: “changes in the amount of payments made under the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Plan and other public assistance plans, [and] changes in the eligibility requirements of public assistance plans.”

How much profit does Wal-Mart make from public assistance? In one year, nine Wal-Mart Supercenters in Massachusetts received more than $33 million in SNAP dollars, more than four times the SNAP money spent at farmers’ markets nationwide. In two years, Wal-Mart received about half of the $1 billion in SNAP expenditures in Oklahoma. Overall, 18 percent of all food benefits money is spent at Wal-Mart. That’s about $14 billion.

Others also profit well from food stamps. Food stamps are distributed via Electronic Benefits Transfer or EBT (some recipients claim the acronym really means “Eat Better Tonight.”) JPMorgan Chase holds the contracts in half the United States to handle the transactions. In Florida, JPMorgan’s contract is worth $83 million, and in New York, it’s worth more than $112 million. Meanwhile, until recent changes, customer service for the JP Morgan EBT program was done via offshore call centers in India and Mexico who paid far below domestic wages.
Think everything on a dollar menu costs a dollar? Think again.
Simple answer: Don't allow "super stores" (aka Walmart, Costco, Target, and all those who sell more than just groceries) to accept SNAP cards, and limit the types of purchases (aka actually have brave politicians willing to go against the lobbyists).
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-02 21:56:32
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Here's a story in which the headline caught my eye.

Poll: Foreign policy no longer Obama strong point

When was it ever his strong point?
When does he have a strong point period?

Unless you count keeping the country divided. Then that would count as his strong point.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-02 22:17:56
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Simple answer: Don't allow "super stores" (aka Walmart, Costco, Target, and all those who sell more than just groceries) to accept SNAP cards, and limit the types of purchases (aka actually have brave politicians willing to go against the lobbyists).
Paying a livable wage is somehow not part of the answer. Obviously.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-02 22:42:40
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Simple answer: Don't allow "super stores" (aka Walmart, Costco, Target, and all those who sell more than just groceries) to accept SNAP cards, and limit the types of purchases (aka actually have brave politicians willing to go against the lobbyists).
Paying a livable wage is somehow not part of the answer. Obviously.

As much as I agree with you, "living wage" has to be quantified in order to determine what it actually is. Roof over your head, food, some manner of transportation, basic life savings, and the possibility of social mobility would be my definition, but everyone has a different definition. For a lot of people, things like smart phones, internet access, buying a house, etc, are among basics. For others, nothing above air should be guaranteed.
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