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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 12:53:09
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Sounds good to me, but the reason that God is masculine is because back in the day everything was gendered because of the way language worked. And things with power were given masculine gender back then.

So why would God then write that women are second class citizens worthy of being filed in with my pet cow Belle and my herd of goats henceforth known as the baaaatallion.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-04-18 12:53:31
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I'd suggest Soren Kierkegaard for some interesting thoughts also.

My suggestion for reading just cause Thomas Paine is in my list of heroes.

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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-04-18 12:54:00
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Didn't

Woah, blasphemy. I hope you like the racks.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 12:54:23
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to covet: : desire, yearn for, crave, have one's heart set on, want...
Do not covet thy neighbors wife... and saying no rape is in Leviticus, is what I was saying. Therefore jesus and the gospel never had to say it.


In general, it's always a bad idea to convict people of thought crime. To covet is to take no action, but simply desire. This probably belongs in the other thread, but doesn't this create an incompatibility with all of the capitalist or near-capitalist world?
Would require a utopian society yes
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By fonewear 2014-04-18 12:54:50
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I've read a lot of Nietzsche also. Human All too Human being my favorite.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 12:54:51
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Didn't

Woah, blasphemy. I hope you like the racks.
edit: No god never said that it is misconception lol
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 12:55:25
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I've read a lot of Nietzsche also. Human All too Human being my favorite.
Behind all the comedic relief, lies the voice of reason my friends :P
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-04-18 12:56:00
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I'd suggest Soren Kierkegaard for some interesting thoughts also.
I second that
Kierkegaard is the kind of phylosophers who shouldn't even be in school books.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 12:56:46
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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fonewear said: »
I'd suggest Soren Kierkegaard for some interesting thoughts also.
I second that
Kierkegaard is the kind of phylosophers who shouldn't even be in school books.
whys that?
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By fonewear 2014-04-18 12:57:21
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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fonewear said: »
I'd suggest Soren Kierkegaard for some interesting thoughts also.
I second that
Kierkegaard is the kind of phylosophers who shouldn't even be in school books.

I disagree that is like saying skip Freud if you are studying Psychology.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-04-18 12:57:47
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In general, it's always a bad idea to convict people of thought crime. To covet is to take no action, but simply desire. This probably belongs in the other thread, but doesn't this create an incompatibility with all of the capitalist or near-capitalist world?
Would require a utopian society yes


I think you mean Cornucopia, not utopia, after all, Atlas Shrugged is one vision of a "Utopia".
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By fonewear 2014-04-18 12:58:31
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I don't think Soren should be required reading but it should be offered.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-04-18 13:00:15
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fonewear said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Shiva.Tedril said: »
fonewear said: »
I'd suggest Soren Kierkegaard for some interesting thoughts also.
I second that
Kierkegaard is the kind of phylosophers who shouldn't even be in school books.

I disagree that is like saying skip Freud if you are studying Psychology.

Freud masturbated furiously during psychoanalytical sessions. For this reason he's my favorite human being ever.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 13:00:18
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In general, it's always a bad idea to convict people of thought crime. To covet is to take no action, but simply desire. This probably belongs in the other thread, but doesn't this create an incompatibility with all of the capitalist or near-capitalist world?
Would require a utopian society yes


I think you mean Cornucopia, not utopia, after all, Atlas Shrugged is one vision of a "Utopia".
In the sense that the greater good is both always sought for and also successful 99% of the time with little need for discipline or laws.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-04-18 13:00:34
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A god of love yes. One that's desire is for us to find our way back to him by bettering ourselves and bettering mankind. He is the creator, sustain-er, and finisher. Simply put that is.

You never really answered the question. Which god did you pick? I'm sure most of them would be referred to as the 'god of love', the creator, sustain-er, etc.

Or do you worship all the gods? Or maybe you worship your own god that you made up?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-04-18 13:01:06
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The cocaine and middle name Schlomo didn't win you over?
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 13:01:35
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I don't think Soren should be required reading but it should be offered.
But his all seeing Eye will find you!!! Or is that Sauron? tomato tahmato...
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The cocaine and middle name Schlomo didn't win you over?

I was sold after Oedipus complex.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-04-18 13:02:11
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Dear lord, reading through Ayn Rand should unlock a RL achievement. There are dry reads and then there is Rand, Aristotle, Derrida.

Emerson is also some good reading.
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By fonewear 2014-04-18 13:03:08
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I don't think Soren should be required reading but it should be offered.
But his all seeing Eye will find you!!! Or is that Sauron? tomato tahmato...

He is Danish so he is a pastry.
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By fonewear 2014-04-18 13:04:37
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Wish I was offered Philosophy in high school instead of Psychology.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 13:05:51
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A god of love yes. One that's desire is for us to find our way back to him by bettering ourselves and bettering mankind. He is the creator, sustain-er, and finisher. Simply put that is.

You never really answered the question. Which god did you pick? I'm sure most of them would be referred to as the 'god of love', the creator, sustain-er, etc.

Or do you worship all the gods? Or maybe you worship your own god that you made up?
I thought you said all Gods are made up :P. Surely you wouldnt follow the principal that thinking makes it so. Do I read the bible is that what you are asking? yes, have I read other scriptures? Of course, Do I think there are some rightness in each? I would hope so most of them are the same generically, Do I believe in jesus? you betcha! And thats the kicker, thats where faith comes in, but it all started with finding him with understanding with my mind.
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How do you guys feel about Zizek?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-04-18 13:06:12
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Shiva.Tedril said: »
whys that?
I don't expect you to understand my point of view given your latest replies in this thread.

Odin.Zicdeh said: »
I disagree that is like saying skip Freud if you are studying Psychology.
I disagree. Kierkegaard doesn't present any innovation to the phylosophical thinking, his ethic is just a bunch of moralism which we can live without. My phylosophy teacher loved him too, as for me, I was quite happy when we moved on with Schopenhauer and Nietzche.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-04-18 13:06:15
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In general, it's always a bad idea to convict people of thought crime. To covet is to take no action, but simply desire. This probably belongs in the other thread, but doesn't this create an incompatibility with all of the capitalist or near-capitalist world?
Would require a utopian society yes


I think you mean Cornucopia, not utopia, after all, Atlas Shrugged is one vision of a "Utopia".
In the sense that the greater good is both always sought for and also successful 99% of the time with little need for discipline or laws.


Every time you say "Greater Good" a Tau gets his rifle.

Seriously though, broad patronizing terminology like that is the domain of cold readers. If you want to have a real discussion, cast a smaller net.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 13:07:34
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fonewear said: »
Wish I was offered Philosophy in high school instead of Psychology.
I just read my dad's philosophy text book, tried to do a presentation on Soren in 8th grade but my reading teaching said no, but she let me right it out and turn it in for extra credit.
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By fonewear 2014-04-18 13:07:36
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How do you guys feel about Zizek?

No clue haven't read anything by him.
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 13:08:18
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Shiva.Tedril said: »
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In general, it's always a bad idea to convict people of thought crime. To covet is to take no action, but simply desire. This probably belongs in the other thread, but doesn't this create an incompatibility with all of the capitalist or near-capitalist world?
Would require a utopian society yes


I think you mean Cornucopia, not utopia, after all, Atlas Shrugged is one vision of a "Utopia".
In the sense that the greater good is both always sought for and also successful 99% of the time with little need for discipline or laws.


Every time you say "Greater Good" a Tau gets his rifle.

Seriously though, broad patronizing terminology like that is the domain of cold readers. If you want to have a real discussion, cast a smaller net.
I prefer to expect the worst hope for the best lol
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By Shiva.Tedril 2014-04-18 13:10:00
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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whys that?
I don't expect you to understand my point of view given your latest replies in this thread.

Odin.Zicdeh said: »
I disagree that is like saying skip Freud if you are studying Psychology.
I disagree. Kierkegaard doesn't present any innovation to the phylosophical thinking, his ethic is just a bunch of moralism which we can live without. My phylosophy teacher loved him too, as for me, I was quite happy when we moved on with Schopenhauer and Nietzche.
I would love to here it I'm not sure what turns you off to explaining it, but I will try not to respond that way. I love hearing others point of views.
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