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Best way to use -QD gears
Ragnarok.Ecaroh
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By Ragnarok.Ecaroh 2012-11-30 09:47:32
I may be confused on this issue. Im going from memory, but I got a pretty good augment on Blood mask with -5 QD timer
AND I no longer need my old light melee Mirke so might redo that with -QD augments also .............
So the question is can I macro in -QD gears and somehow swap mid action for +QD damage for +2 Empyrean set? Seems impossible since its instant.
If not, Has there been discussion to show the increased QD frequency
makes up for potential lost damage from the set effects?
Thanks for the assist
Eca
Quetzalcoatl.Dova
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2012-11-30 09:51:01
It's a JA so it's instant there's no cast time for midcast swapping.
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-11-30 09:51:37
QD is instant, you can't have precast and midcast gear.
Best gearset include W mask and Mirke to get 40 seconds recast.
Seha.
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Siren.Kuz
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By Siren.Kuz 2012-11-30 09:57:01
As stated above, it's an instant. so no precast/midcast.
BUT you may want to have 2 sets. One with your W.mask when damage doesn't matter...
and one with Pandinus/Thaumas Hat/Nav.Tricorne when you want higher damage.
EDIT: Unless of course the mask can be augmented with MAB...
never really looked to hard into the mask augment possibilities.
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-11-30 09:58:34
Maybe for ADL which lasts 30 seconds, but for everything else you want to ride the timer.
Siren.Kuz
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By Siren.Kuz 2012-11-30 10:01:58
Maybe for ADL which lasts 30 seconds, but for everything else you want to ride the timer.
Oh of course, in a zerg situation, the timer won't matter much when ***dies in a heartbeat.
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-11-30 10:06:24
In THEORY the mask could get up to -5 QD recast and +6 mab. But you'd be the most lucky *** in the world to get something like that. Mab comes from the dreadful random pool.
Phoenix.Icemn
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-11-30 10:22:59
In THEORY the mask could get up to -5 QD recast and +6 mab. But you'd be the most lucky *** in the world to get something like that. Mab comes from the dreadful random pool.
And here you were downgrading my mask for not having it :<
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-11-30 10:23:34
You claimed it to be a perfect augment, which was false.
Phoenix.Icemn
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-11-30 10:33:21
I said it was 2 MAcc short of a perfect augment, assumed you would take that as "perfect augment of what it can naturally get". Sorry but not gonna waste tatters trying to get lucky enough for both MAB+6 and QD-5 to land on the mask at the same time. It's just not practical lol. How many tatters did you try before giving up on it? @.@
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Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-11-30 10:42:12
Didn't say to do that?
Just corrected a false statement, get over it.
Ragnarok.Ecaroh
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By Ragnarok.Ecaroh 2012-12-03 12:45:41
Thanks guys. So if i hear this right you say for longer non-zerg fights I should try to "ride the timer" and go for thw W.head and ACP body with -QD? more TP equals more WS.
Thanks for the feedback.
Eca
Phoenix.Icemn
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-03 13:00:40
Didn't say to do that?
Just corrected a false statement, get over it.
But it wasn't a false statement, it's nearly a perfect augment for what it can naturally get not some random augment. Still don't understand why you hate me so much lol but whatever, all good.^_^
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Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-12-03 13:06:27
You're not that important that I post things to hate you. Perfect augment is QD-5 and mab. Thus yours isn't. Next time add context to it and I won't correct it.
But knowing you I expect you to keep pestering about this ad libitum.
Phoenix.Icemn
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-03 13:08:32
You're not that important that I post things to hate you. Perfect augment is QD-5 and mab. Thus yours isn't. Next time add context to it and I won't correct it.
But knowing you I expect you to keep pestering about this ad libitum.
I'm important enough for you to reply to, pick fights with, and even BList when I make you sound dumb(Read: You saying those that read the Bible are judgemental and ignorant. I still don't think you saw the irony in that.) And I corrected the context 3 or so times already in this topic alone and you keep "correcting" me.
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Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-12-03 13:10:06
Reported for bringing up things that have been said in game conversations.
Also completely twisted.
edit: and I just reply cause since people come here to gather information I, like many others, like to make sure they're always reliable.
Phoenix.Icemn
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-03 13:11:55
Reported for bringing up things that have been said in game conversations.
Also completely twisted.
It wasn't twisted at all, that's what you said. lol
And oh? I'm sorry, didn't know we weren't allowed to say stuff said in the game on the forums of the game. My mistake.
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Ragnarok.Shaay
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By Ragnarok.Shaay 2012-12-03 13:12:48
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-12-03 13:13:06
No one here cares about our fight so I'm not going to backtrack and explain what I said and why that's different. Stop talking to me, you're just slandering and harassing me.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-03 13:14:37
It didn't have magic attack bonus, ergo it was not perfect. "Nearly perfect for what I can naturally get" is like saying "well I got a D, but that's nearly perfect for what I can naturally learn!"
Phoenix.Icemn
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-03 13:16:24
There's nothing to back track to, since I joined the shell all you did was pick fights from me. I've never even met you before that so why you hate me I don't even know.
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-12-03 13:17:28
Stop playing victim, and I'll repeat: no one here cares about our relationship.
Phoenix.Icemn
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-03 13:19:26
Didn't say anyone cared, but w/e. I'm not playing the victim, I'm stating what happened. And there is no relationship, you hate me, I'm impartial towards you. The only thing that annoys me is that you try to talk down to me every chance you get.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-03 13:20:27
Hate to break it to you guy, but you're the one who came in here smearing ***
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Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-12-03 13:34:05
Didn't say anyone cared, but w/e. I'm not playing the victim, I'm stating what happened. And there is no relationship, you hate me, I'm impartial towards you. The only thing that annoys me is that you try to talk down to me every chance you get. With your attitude, I don't blame her.
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Phoenix.Icemn
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-03 13:35:39
Didn't say anyone cared, but w/e. I'm not playing the victim, I'm stating what happened. And there is no relationship, you hate me, I'm impartial towards you. The only thing that annoys me is that you try to talk down to me every chance you get. With your attitude, I don't blame her.
Right, because you're going to act as nice as possible for the person acting like that.
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-12-03 13:36:28
What the hell do you want. I pointed out a game fact, that's the beginning and end of it. Leave me alone.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-03 13:38:36
Didn't say anyone cared, but w/e. I'm not playing the victim, I'm stating what happened. And there is no relationship, you hate me, I'm impartial towards you. The only thing that annoys me is that you try to talk down to me every chance you get. With your attitude, I don't blame her.
Right, because you're going to act as nice as possible for the person acting like that.
You must be one of those people who takes offense to being offered gear advice. It isn't condescension to be helpful, nor is it condescension to point out when someone is wrong.
Now drop it. You wont make any allies here.
Phoenix.Icemn
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-03 13:39:40
Not at all, Proth. In fact I personally ASKED Seha to help me with my gear. I love gear advice if it means I can improve.
I may be confused on this issue. Im going from memory, but I got a pretty good augment on Blood mask with -5 QD timer
AND I no longer need my old light melee Mirke so might redo that with -QD augments also .............
So the question is can I macro in -QD gears and somehow swap mid action for +QD damage for +2 Empyrean set? Seems impossible since its instant.
If not, Has there been discussion to show the increased QD frequency
makes up for potential lost damage from the set effects?
Thanks for the assist
Eca
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