SMN BURNS

There is no exploit on Level sync systems, this thing is following ALL GAME MECHANICS, Level Sync: you need to get a syncer who is not always avaliable, Astral flow: is AoE and You can only do this every 2hrs, unless a COR resets it and that follows the game mechanics also, Link all mobs: w/o words but you know what i mean.

So where is the exploit on this? you need to work on them anyways is not free XP, you take like 1 hour between pull etc, so you need a High Level, at elast 3 SMNs a sync and 2 leechers if you want,

wait, how do you know how tall I am?

I don't remember mentioning how tall I am to people, but I could be mistaken.

Besides, I don't feel that I can be a good politician. I have ethics and morals, so I doubt I could get elected into anything higher than Texas State Governor.

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1. You say right there that he wasn't wrong.

2. See above.

3. See above.

4. Yeah, you're missing out... But.. Unless it's your VERY FIRST job to 75, you should have a firm grasp on how any job does things and how to do that same job with decent efficiency. The only exceptions to this would be Summoner and Black Mage of course. We all know they're not invited to xp parties.

5. You're continually saying "DON'T DO IT!" in regards to AB'ing. Yeah, you use the excuse that people need to 'experience' the job to be able to play it, but we all know that most jobs require minimal experience to do the job well and execute their tasks required at an effective level.

6. I've stated my position for AB'ing more than once. Yes, it is a great way to get xp for subs. Yes, it is a great way to get merits.
Do you need to know how to play a job from 1-37 if you're going to use it as a sub? Most jobs are FAR different when used as a sub than when used as the main job. Dark Knight for example as a main job from 1-37 is more or less another big delay DD. Sure, you have a bit of MP, but most of that MP isn't going to be used and you're relegated to mindlessly swinging away with the occasional stun. As a sub at 75 you're pretty much just using it for Souleater zerging or chainspell stunning. How are those even remotely similar? How does playing the job from 1-37 actually affect what you'll be using it for as a sub on a lvl 75 job?
Also, you often state that you prefer to merit on Mamools (or elsewhere as long as it's a traditional xp pt) and don't like AB'ing for quick merits.
How does doing the same thing over and over in a merit party differ from doing the same thing over and over AB'ing? You need 1+ members outside the party to pull mobs and the Summoners in the party use their AF to get xp from many mobs at once instead of killing many mobs individually?

7. Yes, there are shades of gray to everything. But you 'have' said that Minidragon wasn't wrong or immoral in his actions.

8. See above.

9. See above.

10. Yes, you CAN AB because SE says it's ok and clearly within the mechanics of the game. So, why are you still here telling people they shouldn't do it? Oh, right.. Experience that you can't in any way get from any other source.

11. Yes, duping is against the rules. No, AB'ing is not. No one said any differently. There is no legal/illegal here... lol SE doesn't make laws, they make rules. :P Yeah, my views on whether something is in accordance with the rules ARE influenced by the person/people making the rules. I never questioned the 'morality' of the subject, that was you.

The reason why I state that you need to actually experience most things irl to do them properly is because often times real life situations are subjective and change depending on the person. Unless you're in a relatively controlled environment, similar actions could produce different results with many ever-changing variables. Doing the same fight 100x in FFXI will often produce VERY similar results. Because of this, you can read someone else's experiences as well as background information to know what you're doing and what to expect.

How do I know if someone is doing something right? If someone does something and it produces the desired results, they did it right. Let's throw in a real-life analogy for you, since you're so fond of them. If you attempt to bake a cake and it comes out charred and tastes like dirt, you obviously did something wrong. If, however, you bake a cake and it comes out of the oven looking appealing and tastes good, you did something right.

No, you don't have to do something to KNOW HOW to do it. But, by doing something you PROVE that you CAN to do it.

Korpg, some people 'enjoy' going out and lazily killing mobs in a skill-up party with friends. I for one, abhor experience points parties though. Also... As for the Summoner part, you don't really need that great of skill to kill Maat. He's so ridiculously weak for Summoners...

11. Were it to be the other way around, with duping legal according to SE and SMN burning illegal according to SE, you would be presenting the same arguements in reverse. Duping is only illegal because SE said so. SMN burning is only legal because SE said so. My views on duping and SMN burning do not change merely on the whims of SE, as yours seem to (please correct me if I am wrong there, as I am assuming). There is a word for standing by your beliefs: integrity.

If you can sit there and tell me you've never used a cheat code, or game genie type device to play the games you loved in the past, I would be amazed.

Care to elaborate?

You are using my name to draw similarities between my stated views and your stated views. I did not see those views as being compatible. I chose to use a simple sentence in order to express that I did not feel our views were compatible in the most succinct way possible. It was not my intention to step on any toes.

There is NO SUBSTITUTE for EXPERIENCE.

See, people who take the easy way out is going to weaken themselves when it comes to that type of job. Type meaning the basics: Tank, Healer, Buffer/Debuffer, DD. You burn a job from 13-75 and you lose much more than skillups with that job's major skills, but also experience you can not replace with skillup parties. I'm talking about trying out new things with that job to see what works and what doesn't, seeing how to react during a different situation, and how to be better at what that job type requires. You burn thru that, you lost days/weeks/months of practice to make that job type the best you can make it.

Bringing integrity into a video game is another subject completely aside from integrity irl. Games are games, they do not hurt people. However, rl can hurt people when they let a video game control them, or if they don't get properly certified to drive semi trucks and drive them anyway. In either of these rl circumstances, you can find yourself in a crisis situation very fast because you lacked the integrity to do the right thing.

Integrity in a game or of a game is a completely separate issue. For example before the dawn of FFXI RMT and hax, there were tools such as the game genie, and button codes you could press to change the intregrity of the game. The developers of these games knew about them and said nothing about them being illegal, in fact they allowed it to occur. However, in FFXI, rules have been set such as you shall not be involved in RMT activity, and you should not use third party software. No where in SE's rule book does it say summoner burns are not allowed, and if you are involved in them, your character lacks integrity.

If you can sit there and tell me you've never used a cheat code, or game genie type device to play the games you loved in the past, I would be amazed. Maybe... then maybe you could say you have integrity in video games. However, this does not change the fact that integrity irl, and integrity in or of the game are two completely separate issues. I will summoner burn to get fast exp, but I would never touch a semi truck with a ten foot pole because I don't have the experience to do so.

Btw, SMN43 whit 40 summoning magic skill wwww

You are certainly correct here, and I apologize for the confusion. The not-so-obvious reference to integrity is to my views not changing just because a given society to which I adhere changes their rules. I used the word in a general sense...perhaps it was too general.

My own view is that this game's Game Genie is FFXI-App. To me, SMN burn, duping, and other so-called exploits fall along the lines of "the designers didn't mean for it to be done that way, but it works". All games have their glitches. This is where my oft-quoted reference to "wrong and immoral" is aimed at: I don't feel it was wrong to dupe and I think its quite amoral. WHere that gets taken totally out of context is that it was a statement aimed at fishing for information out of someone who was flaming Minidragon. I suppose I also owe an apology for that one, too: I fail at understanding how the interwebs works.

weaksauce, my 75smn had 38 smn skill when i first dinged

Korpg, after looking back through your posts, our styles may be different, our words may be different, and our style of play within the game may be different, but our underlying opinions are similar...apologies.

My Summoning Magic Skill was 96 when I hit 75. There were no split Blood Pact timers to give you twice the chances to skill up on. That didn't matter anyway as there were no skillups just from using Blood Pacts. I got to 96 purely from summoning in PTs. I believe SE also increased the rate of skillups for doing that, too.

I went from 96 to 269 from using my SMN in endgame...I was at 262 the day the new system made its debut.

Holy Christ...its the games "elite" telling everyone how to play the game!! Honestly, let people do what they want. They are paying the money to play the game. No one cares if it makes them a lesser SMN but you. Really, you are just starting to annoy me like Poof and Karla before her. Get off your high horse of geekdom and just play the game.

weaksauce, my 75smn had 38 smn skill when i first dinged