Okay, so recently I finished my Revenant Fists +2 for my PUP and been looking for a smite build for PUP. Atm my build is...
I do have a thunder belt I could swap in instead of Sentry, but I really havn't noticed much difference in damage doing that. Any suggestions?
Gear For Victory Smite (PUP)
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Gear for Victory Smite (PUP)
Dont let Spicyryan see this thread :/
Another situation where ws mod or att would probably be better than elemental belt/gorget.
Anyways changes I'd make.... Head:Tokon Hachimaki if it helps break a tier otherwise Gnadbhod's Helm neck:Faith Torque, Agasaya's Collar, Ire Torque +1 earrings:Vulcan's Pearl X2 Body: Cirque Farsetto +1/2, Hands: Cirque Guanti +2 rings: Pyrosoul Ring X2 back: Vellaunus' Mantle waist: Beir Belt +1 legs: Usukane Hizayoroi Okay... Guess I got some work to do since all of those buyable items are pretty expensive lol...
Strigoi Ring would be good too. Also the 7 stat rings are kinda overpriced now from the way I understand it but part of that is not too many people buying and the difficulty of the synergy... still think I should try making monies on them
Quote: Head:Tokon Hachimaki if it helps break a tier otherwise Gnadbhod's Helm His best bet here is going to swap his Moogle hat to 4 str 15 ws acc, 2% ws dmg. Quote: neck:Faith Torque, Agasaya's Collar, Ire Torque +1 Quote: earrings:Vulcan's Pearl X2 Quote: Body: Cirque Farsetto +1/2, Quote: rings: Pyrosoul Ring X2 No complaints w/ the rest Oh actually I did do that augment on my moogle hat so got that covered. But it is nice to see multiple inputs into this lol. Thanks
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[130 days between previous and next post]Quote: Quote: neck:Faith Torque, Agasaya's Collar, Ire Torque +1 Would Ire NQ = Gorget in overall dmg? I been hearing mostly negativity around gorgets , making them pretty low on the list if on the list at all for ws sets that are multi hit. I'm not a mathy person so I'm not certain, if you have any time would you point out which would be a better piece? I have an Ire NQ and gorget but I have been using Ire as of late, I'm assuming its one of those " if acc isn't capped then gorget , if it is, Ire " kind of situation. Thanks in advance. Forgot the ire torque, the Rancor Collar is a lot better (inside or outside abyssea).
About your question, the answer is a bit linked with the other gear you have. Inside abyssea NQ ire > gorget. Outside abyssea Gorget > NQ ire (actually outside abyssea gorget > HQ ire). The best for you is to download the Motenten's spreadsheet and see with the gear you have, the difference between 2 items. If you want to check outside abyssea, remove the atma and the cruor buff (Spec Add).
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[71 days between previous and next post]I'm gonna necro this.. I just got rev fists+2 and I can't see how gorget beats ire+1 for WS..for inside or outside.. Also what's the best MKD helm setup for Smite? Dex+/agi+ crit+/WSdmg+? (for pup mainly but would also double up as my eventual blade:hi piece)
Odin.Eikechi said: » I'm gonna necro this.. I just got rev fists+2 and I can't see how gorget beats ire+1 for WS..for inside or outside.. Also what's the best MKD helm setup for Smite? Dex+/agi+ crit+/WSdmg+? (for pup mainly but would also double up as my eventual blade:hi piece) Shiva.Spathaian said: » Ire+1 DOES beat gorget for WS hands down. Inside abyssea* Outside it's an other story, especially in VW and dynamis (at least on NMs) Anyway like i said it before, you have no reason to buy a ire +1 since it cost the same price that a rancor colar which pwn everything for WS (and TP if you dont care to take more dmg) Quote: Best damage, Crit+ and WSdmg+ should be best bet, with Str+/WSAcc+ replacing Crit+ being a close 2nd if I remember correctly Again, in abyssea onry. You can not miss the Str+/WSAcc+ outside abyssea (with ws dmg) Bismarck.Gael said: » Again, in abyssea onry. You can not miss the Str+/WSAcc+ outside abyssea (with ws dmg) Honestly, no reason not to go with ws damage+ 15acc/str regardless of abyssea.(I know you probably know that, but just clearing it up for anoyone else that might have doubts) Store TP is always useful for DW and H2H jobs unless you're getting TP purely through regain. Rajas + Epona's is the best TP option available right now unless you're in dire need of accuracy.
Odin.Hitoseijuro said: » Honestly, no reason not to go with ws damage+ 15acc/str regardless of abyssea.(I know you probably know that, but just clearing it up for anoyone else that might have doubts) Ya ya, it was just to answer to Spathaian ^^ Quote: Rajas + Epona's is the best TP option available right now For that i saw in motenten's file, the best combo is epona + oneiros (assuming you had some MP merits, and even if you have enough store tp to save a hit). It's not true anymore ? Quote: Will Rancor Collar outperform Cirque Necklace Yep, rancor > everything for tp or ws, inside or outside Abyssea taking everything i have not to scream, Rev Fists +2?? are you stupid???? either get a vere for the aftermath or stick with stringing pummel /thred
Asura.Jadecc said: » i'm either trolling, or thinking people don't get satire I'll admit I never specified inside or outside Abyssea when I said what I did. I also still hold that Crit dmg+ and WS dmg+ is still going to do more damage, both inside and out. This is of course going on the assumption that even outside Abyssea we're going to be capped, if not damn near close to it, on accuracy in except on newer things.
However with the newer content, like Voidwatch, where accuracy is becoming relevant again I agree that WSAcc+ and WS dmg+ is a clear winner for PUP, and as I said in my post I have that exact Anwig Salade augment. Asura.Jadecc said: » taking everything i have not to scream, Rev Fists +2?? are you stupid???? either get a vere for the aftermath or stick with stringing pummel /thred Wait, what? Pardon me, as I'm not a PUP. But Stringing Pummel definitely has nothing on VSmite. Asura.Jadecc said: » taking everything i have not to scream, Rev Fists +2?? are you stupid???? either get a vere for the aftermath or stick with stringing pummel /thred
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Carbuncle.Virtuosus said: » Asura.Jadecc said: » taking everything i have not to scream, Rev Fists +2?? are you stupid???? either get a vere for the aftermath or stick with stringing pummel /thred Wait, what? Pardon me, as I'm not a PUP. But Stringing Pummel definitely has nothing on VSmite. Could be very close string pummel is awesome :3 Carbuncle.Virtuosus said: » Asura.Jadecc said: » taking everything i have not to scream, Rev Fists +2?? are you stupid???? either get a vere for the aftermath or stick with stringing pummel /thred Wait, what? Pardon me, as I'm not a PUP. But Stringing Pummel definitely has nothing on VSmite. From last I heard, pummel beat out Vsmite. This topic is about Victory Smite. Leave it there.
stringing pummel does have its moments, that's not to say "don't get victory smite it's a waste of time", but if you're only doing pup as a side project, I'd consider prioritizing better gear over revenant fists +2
Bismarck.Gael said: » For that i saw in motenten's file, the best combo is epona + oneiros (assuming you had some MP merits, and even if you have enough store tp to save a hit). It's not true anymore ? EDIT: I really don't want to go delving into statistics right now but even if adding Store TP doesn't shave off a hit it should still decrease your average rounds to WS by a % almost identical to the amount of STP added after accounting for existing STP. |
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