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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-17 06:49:30
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is Carabosse immune to Addle?
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By Carbuncle.Maxz 2010-10-17 07:50:42
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when you tanked on mnk did you use counterstance or just all out on haste gear . Oh and how hard was the nm's for the final upgrade ?
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By Cerberus.Najla 2010-10-17 08:43:05
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
is Carabosse immune to Addle?
Nope!
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-10-17 08:47:33
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Carbuncle.Maxz said:
Oh and how hard was the nm's for the final upgrade ?

Heqet: Mage + DD, no problem. DD might even be able to solo.
Cep-Kamuy: Absolute joke for a mage to solo.
Cirein-Croin: Absolute joke again, just Cep-Kamuy with more HP.
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By Cerberus.Najla 2010-10-17 08:51:12
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Yup what Raenryong said, fish = EP. The suck part of the upgrade for us was the Caraboose part, once that was over only took a little over a day to finish up. He had a few lamps from ls-events to start out with also.
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By Cerberus.Oblit 2010-10-17 09:50:26
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Thanks everyone!

Caitsith.Ejin said:
Did you ever try for red !!'s on your trios? The jobs you used can only use 3-5 of the possible 13. I found it alot easier farming KI's on Sam which can use 7 all by itself, mage/whm makes it 8, then add in thf to cover 10 of the 13 possible red !! triggers for 100% KI. This is really more helpful on Heqet for lamps though. If it's anything like my server, there are many JPs camping it, and getting KI 90% of the time(27 KI out of 30 kills) really helped in lowering the amount i had to actually camp.

Also, did you ever farm the pop items or just buy it from AH. There were times even with TH4 i wouldn't get a pop item for over 10min, especially orobons >_<.

I didn't have that luxury, most of my pop sets were done solo on my mnk/war with regen(Mounted Champion) atma. I was buying pop items from AH, pop them then D4.

My last few pop set a WAR and a NIN was there to help proc red !!.

Carbuncle.Maxz said:
when you tanked on mnk did you use counterstance or just all out on haste gear . Oh and how hard was the nm's for the final upgrade ?

No counterstance, and all out DD gear. Ciren croin is a lot easier to farm.
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By Carbuncle.Maxz 2010-10-17 09:58:56
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ok sounds really good and to achive this is awesome. Me and my freinds were coin farmin in WoE but seeing this makes me think we can get these gems. ty for the info and grats on the Masa hopefully I can get my caldeborge the same way :D
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By Bismarck.Eurekavii 2010-10-17 15:51:20
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I was able to farm popsets in 20 minutes or less. Ninja has the ability to proc 9 of the 13 ele ws's for red !!.

Blade: Ei
Cyclone
Energy Drain
Koki
Jinpu
Red Lotus Blade
Seraph Blade
Earthcrusher
Seraph Strike

so yeah, there are better odds to proc with NIN/WAR and WHM/SCH

Hope this helps.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-10-17 16:02:37
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NIN + WAR together can use all weaponskills proc'ing red !!~
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By Siren.Itachi 2010-10-17 16:14:19
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:

Heqet: Mage + DD, no problem. DD might even be able to solo.
How can Heqet be soloed or duoed? I need this *** dead.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-17 16:19:19
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Cerberus.Najla said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
is Carabosse immune to Addle?
Nope!


so her whm form must be a joke actually lol...nice
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-10-17 16:40:49
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Siren.Itachi said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:

Heqet: Mage + DD, no problem. DD might even be able to solo.
How can Heqet be soloed or duoed? I need this *** dead.

Not going to address solo but I've no doubt it's possible using meds/atmas/etc.

NB: Heqet can be Bound/Grav'd.

Two methods:

Mage + Mage: Bounce hate, kite/straight tank as necessary. If he uses premonition, kite around for 1 minute until it wears off (can you Dispel it? IDK). Just nuke balls - not particularly challenging.

Melee + Mage: Like above, but faster and with only the melee tanking. Heqet is pretty weak even in his -gas so especially with suitable atma, the DD isn't going to suddenly die.

If something goes wrong, Bind/Grav as necessary and recover.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-17 16:52:27
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Siren.Itachi said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:

Heqet: Mage + DD, no problem. DD might even be able to solo.
How can Heqet be soloed or duoed? I need this *** dead.

Not going to address solo but I've no doubt it's possible using meds/atmas/etc.

NB: Heqet can be Bound/Grav'd.

Two methods:

Mage + Mage: Bounce hate, kite/straight tank as necessary. If he uses premonition, kite around for 1 minute until it wears off (can you Dispel it? IDK). Just nuke balls - not particularly challenging.

Melee + Mage: Like above, but faster and with only the melee tanking. Heqet is pretty weak even in his -gas so especially with suitable atma, the DD isn't going to suddenly die.

If something goes wrong, Bind/Grav as necessary and recover.


Is it safe to assume all of these low-man Heqet methods require sac pulling?
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-10-17 16:54:51
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Naw, pull from range and just run towards Colibri area. Everything will deaggro and you can just tag Heqet again and continue running. Colibri area is a really nice wide open kiting area.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-17 16:57:13
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ahhh ok
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-17 16:59:31
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Hmmm didn't know you could bind/grav the frog. Makes getting the pop items really easy then. Yay armageddon might actually be in my reach. Though for actual DDing the bow is starting to look better and better
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By Cerberus.Oblit 2010-10-19 17:12:14
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Upgrade before they nerf!

Was soloing NMs in Konsch with Voracious Violet and Mounted Champion (Regen) atmas.

Bison steak, Berserk, Stalwart's drink.





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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-10-19 17:13:20
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Jesus Christ man. So obscene!
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-10-19 17:15:42
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I hope your damage reduction set is up to par, as let's face it you'll be pulling hate with that bad boy a lot.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2010-10-23 15:19:33
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That is such HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE damage, lmao.
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-10-23 16:18:08
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What gear do you use for Fudo? The usual YGK set? I've been hearing that Fudo doesn't get quite the same attack boost as the others, has that shown to be a problem at all?
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By BorealisV2 2010-10-23 16:34:18
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Carbuncle.Virtuosus said:
What gear do you use for Fudo? The usual YGK set? I've been hearing that Fudo doesn't get quite the same attack boost as the others, has that shown to be a problem at all?

Needs attack. So basic Kaiten build.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 16:36:22
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BorealisV2 said:
Carbuncle.Virtuosus said:
What gear do you use for Fudo? The usual YGK set? I've been hearing that Fudo doesn't get quite the same attack boost as the others, has that shown to be a problem at all?
Needs attack. So basic Kaiten build.
Could you show a basic Kaiten build? I haven't come across one before
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By BorealisV2 2010-10-23 16:39:44
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
BorealisV2 said:
Carbuncle.Virtuosus said:
What gear do you use for Fudo? The usual YGK set? I've been hearing that Fudo doesn't get quite the same attack boost as the others, has that shown to be a problem at all?
Needs attack. So basic Kaiten build.
Could you show a basic Kaiten build? I haven't come across one before

I would if I knew how to do anything on this forum. But it basically involves things like Byrnie +1, Unkai back, things that have a nice mix of attack and STR.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 16:50:13
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Like that?
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By Pandemonium.Atua 2010-10-23 16:57:51
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Like that?
Yes

Does anyone know how a fully upgraded amano with with similar gear & atma match up in damage?
Can fudo chain for double lights?
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 16:59:35
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Pandemonium.Atua said:
Does anyone know how a fully upgraded amano with with similar gear & atma match up in damage? Can fudo chain for double lights?
Amano got destroyed. :/
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By Asura.Atua 2010-10-23 17:05:53
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Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Pandemonium.Atua said:
Does anyone know how a fully upgraded amano with with similar gear & atma match up in damage? Can fudo chain for double lights?
Amano got destroyed. :/
Sucks, considering how much work you have to do to get it then upgradeto 85. Wonder if they'll change that...
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2010-10-23 17:42:28
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Asura.Atua said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Pandemonium.Atua said:
Does anyone know how a fully upgraded amano with with similar gear & atma match up in damage? Can fudo chain for double lights?
Amano got destroyed. :/
Sucks, considering how much work you have to do to get it then upgradeto 85. Wonder if they'll change that...
I'm hoping they will for all relics, because as far as I know, all of the Empyrean rip the relics apart.
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By Caitsith.Ejin 2010-10-23 17:49:01
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Pandemonium.Atua said:
Bahamut.Aeronis said:
Like that?
Does anyone know how a fully upgraded amano with with similar gear & atma match up in damage?
Can fudo chain for double lights?

I have both and the difference is substantial in Masamune's favor.

Fudo has the same WS properties as Namas. It can only make light with itself, but if a light is made by someone else it can close it for a double light. It's impossible to do solo like you could with Amano and kaiten->kasha->kaiten. It can't double darkness e.g Rana->Fudo->Fudo only makes one darkness.